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Removal[edit]

I removed the unfathomably idiotic comment that the 2001 49ers' "success was hampered by Terrell Owens's purported feud with Steve Mariucci and Terrell Owens."

A couple things here, idiot:

1. The 49ers weren't even expected to be in the playoffs in the first place. Terrell Owens HAMPERED the 2001 49ers when they went 12-4? What, they were supposed to go 13-3 or better? And I'm sure his 93-1412-16 had NOTHING to do with them going 12-4 or anything at all, right?

2. There was no Garcia/Owens rift in 2001. That didn't start until 2003. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.182.169.110 (talk) 02:53, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

New T.O. pic[edit]

PLEASE unprotect this page so i can show my artwork (at least for this one time). I'm betting everyone will love the picture. I drew a really great picture of terrell. i really worked hard on it for about 4-5hours and i want to showcase my talent. i want to request it as the new terrell owens main image.

Fan Art work does not belong on Wikipedia. If you want to share your artwork, try Flickr or Deviantart ;) --►ShadowJester07  20:38, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Needs more info on S.F. Years[edit]

I think we need more info on his S.F. years, mainly controversey. Its not like it all started with the Eagles. I didn't really follow him then, so if anyone knows, please add on.

Proper Pronunciation[edit]

Could someone clarify how his first name is supposed to be pronounced? Either "Tur-rel" or "Tear-ul". Since I have heard commentators and sports reporters refer to him by both names.CharlieP216

It is pronounced "TEH-rell", if that helps. I'll try to look for the exact phonetical breakdown of his name. --ShadowJester07 22:23, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I would actually say that it is "Tear-ul", because it it is pronounced differently than other Terrell's, such as Terrell Davis, which is pronounced Teh-rell.

It is pronounced Ter-rell. Ter as in Terripin, and rell as in rellish.

I think the best way to represent it on paper without hearing it is "Tare-uhl", while the other pronunciation (as in Terrell Davis) is "Turr-ell"


Also, he didn't want his name to be pronounced differently until after 'The Catch II' in that playoff game against the Green Bay Packers

Uh, no. His name was ALWAYS pronounced "TEAR-uhl." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.129.225.102 (talk) 21:03, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Profile Pic[edit]

Owens plays for Dallas now so why is his main picture a pic with the Eagles?

Because there is no Free Fair Use Alternative that depicts him w/ the Cowboys. --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk  13:12, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Can someone please find a new photo? This one looks terrible. VietGrant 07:55, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Umm... why don't you? 68.6.188.242 22:48, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

NFL Record/Notable Addition[edit]

Owens led the NFL in dropped boobs in 2006 with 17, according to stats.com. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 150.199.186.2 (talk) 02:03, 11 January 2007 (UTC).


I think he actually dropped butts. It should at least be in his the Dallas Cowboys section.


TO led the league in dropped passes with 17, but also led the league in touchdowns with 13, while playing injured. It may be more interesting and non-biased to juxtapose the one stat with the other. (Mythos721 21:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC))...........

forgot to cite my source http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/RECTDS/2006/regular And I tried to find his dropped passes stat but couldn't...it may not be an "official" stat...but I don' know that for sure. (Mythos721 21:37, 8 March 2007 (UTC))


Stats Against Former Team[edit]

You should add that Terrell Owens has never beat his former team in NFL competition. He lost to the Eagles and the 49ers. And you should change facts file to "Terrell Owens Tidbits".

September 18 2005 Eagles beat San Fran 42-3, T.O. Played, got two TD's, You should become a better researcher instead of a hater..

Nice. And the Cowboys beat SF this past year decisively, too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.14.182.187 (talk) 02:33, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Isn't it worth noting that TO has not won a playoff game since his last game with San Fran????  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.175.66.150 (talk) 04:07, 15 January 2008 (UTC) 

Controversy Section IS NEUTRAL[edit]

Just because a section highlights all the idiotic things he does on a regular basis does not mean it is not neutral. The section just tells facts (actually leaves out a lot like calling Garcia gay or saying Steve Marucci threw a game -- all things which should be added BTW) and leaves Readers to make judgments....SO GET RID OF THE TAG.

Allen Iverson is on the Denver Nuggets, not the Philadelphia 76ers. Update

Fair use rationale for Image:Owens-sheridan-skit.jpg[edit]

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Eldorado?[edit]

Is this really his middle name?--E tac 22:27, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

No, it's really Stalin.source Damn vandals --ShadowJester07Talk 02:15, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
The source says Eldorado. That's funny.--E tac 08:51, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Trivia[edit]

Is it really necessary to have "T.O say to Jessica Simpson "Go away from My QB". Tony Romo." on the page? I know it's trivia but it seems unnecessary to me. Someone please answer. Burner0718 (talk) 23:03, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Owens-sheridan-skit.jpg[edit]

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POV tag[edit]

This concerns POV tag cleanup. Whenever an POV tag is placed, it is necessary to also post a message in the discussion section stating clearly why it is thought the article does not comply with POV guidelines, and suggestions for how to improve it. This permits discussion and consensus among editors. From WP tag policy: Drive-by tagging is strongly discouraged. The editor who adds the tag must address the issues on the talk page, pointing to specific issues that are actionable within the content policies, namely Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:No original research and Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. Simply being of the opinion that a page is not neutral is not sufficient to justify the addition of the tag. Tags should be added as a last resort. Better yet, edit the topic yourself with the improvements. This statement is not a judgement of content, it is only a cleanup of frivolously and/or arbitrarily placed tags. No discussion, no tag.Jjdon (talk) 00:26, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Upon reading the section, I can see that Professional Career section contains several peacock words/terms, which while generally comply with Wikipedia's POV policies, should still be revised. I agree that the POV tag may not be needed, but a Peacock words tag may however.--  ShadowJester07  ►Talk  02:17, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

"The Other 81"[edit]

Last year TO left a letter before the game against the Patriots talking about how "the Original 81" would leave all questions about "the Other 81" until after Sunday's win (a game they ended up getting their asses handed to them in). Does anyone else think that should be added to controversies? It wasn't THAT controversial, I just thought it was hilarious. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.245.92.47 (talk) 10:44, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Short Arms[edit]

I am somewhat new to Wikipedia (the last week or so), but I heard that T.O. has short arms and hard hands. What does that mean? —Preceding unsigned comment added by YerYeller (talkcontribs) 17:20, 23 October 2008 (UTC)


When a receiver is said to have "soft hands" it's the same as saying he has great hands. (i.e. the ball never bounces off of them.) So having "hard hands" or "stone hands" means just as it sounds, he drops the ball alot. Similarly, having long arms would allow for a player to go up on a jump ball and catch the ball at a higher point, as well as allowing for more acrobatic diving and reaching catches.

Therefore, having short arms and hard hands refers to him not having the hands of a Larry Fitzgerald or the arms of a Randy Moss.

This quote would mean that aside from his ability to be physical and seperate himself from a DB using that physicality, his skills are not typical for an all-time great receiver. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.69.146.203 (talk) 19:18, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

2008[edit]

Why so little info on 2008? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.122.214.130 (talk) 02:38, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

url correction[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}} reference #4 url must be updated. URL should be changed from http://www.sportscolumn.com/story/2004/8/12/10312/2488 to http://www.sportscolumn.com/2004/08/13/terrell-owens-go-back-to-fourth-grade/

Sceditor09 (talk) 16:56, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  18:15, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Updates[edit]

Yo dawg, you gotta update this page. There is nothin about 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.122.214.237 (talk) 04:17, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Basketball Awards[edit]

He is a two time NBA Celebrity All Star Game MVP (2008, 2009). This should be mentioned in his sidebar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.230.177.49 (talk) 03:38, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

T.O. released from Cowboys?[edit]

I note that it's been added to the page, but ESPN is still waiting for confirmation from the team before reporting that as final... Duncan1800 (talk) 05:04, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

It's also now listed under the "Celebrations for Dallas" section, which seems fairly inappropriate. Duncan1800 (talk) 05:16, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Jerry Jones has made an official statement, that should be edited in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.208.81.210 (talk) 21:03, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

jersey number[edit]

Probably T.O. will wear #1 for the Bills.

Except that's impossible. Good job.►Chris NelsonHolla! 01:28, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Impossible? Oh, really? http://www.buffalobillsproshop.com/main_detail.cfm?nObjGroupID=1064&nProductID=14850

It's a generic pic, retard. NFL wide receivers can only wear 10-19 and 80-89.►Chris NelsonHolla! 03:01, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Shame on me, I didn't know about that rule. Anyway, there's no reason to call me retard. I haven't shown any animosity towards you. Peace man (Except that I was cocky and said "Impossible? Oh, really? and then posted a site that I obviously didn't read because it proved my point completely wrong.)

Then you must not follow football.►Chris NelsonHolla! 03:34, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

That's true, I'm from Italy and football is not widely broadcasted here, I watched only a bunch of Super Bowls. I read about Terrell's move and (as I often edit pages on wikipedia when I find wrong or missing data) I wanted to add his new jersey number. Unfortunately, I didn't know about that rule concerning number issues, I just wanted to add some informations. My fault. Cheers Chris

Why is someone from Italy editing an American football site?? With all due respect, unless you're going to do your homework, stick to futbol and leave football to us.


{{editsemiprotected}} Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed.

The Buffalo Bills website does show a jersey showing Owens and #1, however, when you bring the product up it says "Jerseys will ship 3-4 weeks after jersey number selection." He absolutely will not wear #1 in Buffalo. My biggest problem is that this site is semi-protected and the people who do edit it don't follow through with thorough research. This information needs to be changed immediately because Terell does not have a Bills jersey number yet. Trust me, this site will get many hits and far too many people will be misinformed if this goes on. Thank you

Edit request rejected for failure to state specific text that should be inserted. (Also, it appears that the article has dealt with the issue, as it now says "He has been temporarily assigned the number 1, since his current number 81 is worn by James Hardy. As per NFL numbering conventions, Owens will likely have to change his number prior to the start of the 2009 season.") 71.41.210.146 (talk) 03:32, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
He got 81 as per http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-1/owens-to-wear-81-for-bills/44f3929e-ff69-45b3-9d7e-9f809e543f4e. CronoDroid (talk) 21:50, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Wow, who is responsible for so much misinformation? TERRELL WAS NEVER ASSIGNED #1 TEMPORARILY. Following the Bills signing him, his jersey number was temporarily UNASSIGNED, as he had not selected a number nor talked to James Hardy yet. For anyone that wants to know the truth, the Bills simply needed something to put on their website so that they could begin the pre-ordering process of his jerseys, so it showed a #1 Owens jersey much as they do for first round picks. Long story short, whoever edits the site saw this and didn't bother to read the disclaimer that said he had not been assigned ANY jersey number (including #1). So prior to the news about Hardy giving up his number, the site should have shown "Jersey number not yet selected." Just take the responsibility for your lack of research and accurate information, instead of saying "oh well he was temporarily assigned number 1," which is just more inaccurate information and not possible. A team would never temporarily assign a number that would be illegal for a receiver to wear.

This is like watching the upcoming draft and then going out and saying Michael Crabtree will be wearing #1 this season!!! Then when you realize you're a moron, trying to say oh it was temporary. No, actually it's just a generic jersey so that they have something to hold up. Otherwise the list of players to "temporarily" hold number one would be endless. Ridiculous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.69.146.203 (talk) 19:07, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Touchdown celebrations[edit]

"Popularly known by his initials, T.O., Owens is both renowned and reviled for his flamboyant touchdown celebrations, earning him many fines and his teams frequent penalties for his end zone theatrics."
Isn't this a bit lame? The TD celebrations are actually mentioned twice in the same sentence. How about "..earning him many fines and his teams frequent penalties."? Thanks Kvsh5 (talk) 06:54, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Action Figure[edit]

Should someone add something about the action figure of T.O. is his days at dallas?It was his blue jersey and was fully poseable.Replays made it.If you know what I mean,pleasae post.Im new and not used to Wiki.Spidey53225 (talk) 12:31, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism[edit]

Someone added a headline about T.O. playing for the Bengals,but never posted anything.Please remove. Im new and dont know how to edit. Please tell me how on the discussion page. Spidey53225 (talk) 12:45, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

thanksSpidey53225 (talk) 21:04, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Biased?[edit]

Part of the intro sounds maybe a little biased to me, even though it's cited: As productive as he has been, Owens has been equally controversial, creating firestorms with almost every team he has played for as a professional —Preceding unsigned comment added by T-Money92 (talkcontribs) 04:54, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

  • He has. With the 49ers, he incinuated that Jeff Garcia was gay in a playboy interview. He had all kinds of controversy with the Eagles and Dallas. Aside from those last two one-year stints, he's started controversy. He's not condemned for it, it's just mentioned, hence neutral. Atari2 (talk) 15:32, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Old boy....[edit]

born on December 7, 1945 ?????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.156.34.243 (talk) 21:06, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

The page was vandalized. It is fixed now. Eagles 24/7 (C) 22:11, 10 November 2010 (UTC)


Terrell Owens's supposed defense website[edit]

I deleted this from the article:

In May of 2010, Terrell Owens launched http://www.terrellowensdefense.org. It is a website dedicated toward defending him against the many criticisms of him by the media.

I can't see any evidence from the website that the site has been set up by Owens. Someone named Jordan has set it up. Since it isn't anything official or otherwise endorsed by Owens, I don't see its relevance to the article. I'm sure there are dozens if not hundreds of similar sites, advocating for and against Owens. Scrawlspacer (talk) 03:43, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Currently[edit]

Currently it's considered that information on Wikipedia is up to date. Currently we don't think that we have to preface every fact with a word indicating that the following fact is up to date. Currently, it does not matter if a word like "currently" is used, because if the information falls out of date, "currently" does not protect the statement from becoming false. Currently, I believe that this article should not use "currently" when stating facts like this player is "the only player to score against all 32 teams." Currently this is true, and it will remain true until another player accomplishes the same feat. When that happens, it will no longer currently be true regardless of the use of this annoying word. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.35.161.254 (talk) 20:45, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 25 October 2011[edit]

he now plays for NYG i want to add that Rafftyler (talk) 22:22, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

No he doesn't. Eagles 24/7 (C) 22:28, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Cell Phone Incident[edit]

Should the cell phone incident be mentioned? AmericanLeMans (talk) 19:13, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

If you're referring to the touchdown celebration by Joe Horn, then no, it shouldn't be included in an article about Terrell Owens ;) -Hatster301 (talk) 14:32, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

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Overrated[edit]

Should there be no little section about the fact he has been voted the most overrated player a few times by peers?

http://www.cincyjungle.com/2010/10/20/1763277/sports-illustrated-survey-terrell-owens-is-most-overrated-player

http://nesn.com/2010/10/terrell-owens-is-no-longer-the-most-overrated-player-in-the-nfl/ http://cleveland.sbnation.com/2010/10/21/1765253/terrell-owens-voted-most-overrated-player-in-players-poll — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.130.90.94 (talk) 16:40, 29 March 2017 (UTC)