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Two sons[edit]

Can someone find a suitable reference to Terry-Thomas' second son Cushan? At present, he is not mentioned in the article.--Brenont (talk) 12:54, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Yes he is. – SchroCat (talk) 14:06, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Where is that? I can see Timothy (Tiger), but not Cushan. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:15, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Heffer on BBC Radio 3[edit]

Simon Heffer considered Thomas in Episode 3 of his 5-part British Film Comedians on 15 April 2015, and again on 1 September 2015: [1] "Simon Heffer argues that whether playing a cad, a rotten bounder or a charmer, Terry-Thomas came to represent the louche and degenerate side of the upper classes at a time when the class system was coming under full attack." Not sure if this is worth an external link, but it's an interesting analysis. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:08, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Memories of a Cad[edit]

An editor added this paragraph at the end of the "Legacy and reputation" section

In 2014, BBC Radio 4 broadcast Memories of a Cad, an affectionate comedy drama by Roy Smiles about the relationship between Terry-Thomas and the British comedy actor Richard Briers, played by Martin Jarvis and Alistair McGowan respectively. In 1984 when he had suffered from Parkinson's disease for many years, Terry-Thomas is delighted by the visit to his home in Majorca of the much younger Briers, who he recognises from television. Briers cheers him up by recalling the career the film-star has long forgotten – a clever device for a radio biography. It was re-broadcast in 2016.

and the ref is here. Another editor reverted this, with an edit summary of "uninformative, trivial nonsense". It's not uninformative and it's not nonsense, and this is not a correct type of edit summary nor how we address our colleagues, so I've rolled it back on that basis and let's try again.

On the merits, it's an open question whether this is trivial. Generally speaking, books, films, plays, and so forth about a person are considered evidence of his notability in the minds of his peers (or of following generations, for deceased persons) and part of the person's legacy. There's no question the Terry-Thomas inspired this work (its about him). I guess two questions are "Is a radio play important enough to be mentioned, as (say) a film would be? Many fewer people listen to the radio than attend films" and "If yes, does the subject need to be treated at this length?"

As to the first question, it's hard to say, but I'll give a qualified "yes", and along with the editor who first wrote the material that makes two. It's a complete work of dramatic fiction, published by a very notable entity (the BBC), entirely focused on (one aspect of) the subject of the article. As to the second question, it could be shortened somewhat IMO, how about this:

In 2014 and 2016, BBC Radio 4 broadcast Memories of a Cad, a comedy drama by Roy Smiles about the relationship between Terry-Thomas and the British comedy actor Richard Briers, focusing on a 1984 visit to Terry-Thomas (then long ill with Parkinson's disease) in his Majorca home by the much younger Briers, who he recognises from television. Briers cheers him up by recalling the career the film-star has long forgotten.

How's that? It could be trimmed a bit more maybe. Herostratus (talk) 15:41, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

IMO the provided ref is inadequate for inclusion of the content, as it is not independent and fails to support the "significance" of the program per this RfC. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:36, 23 December 2016 (UTC)


Why do we need a consensus about adding an infobox to a biography article? I thought bio infoboxes were standard WP practice. — Loadmaster (talk) 21:14, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

If I recall and understand correctly it's a contentious issue and not settled as a standard, no. I recall something called the "infobox wars" which devastated the T'Quall Quadrant for generations involved lots of editors and much emotion, went on too long, and spilled over into arbitration more than once. Old-timers say it still simmers below the surface. Some editors just really loathe infoboxes, and in certain subject areas they hold sway I believe. It would be logical to have a system-wide standard, but we don't. Herostratus (talk) 21:27, 23 February 2017 t(UTC)
  • No. It would be illogical to have a 'system-wide' (this is not a system, btw) standard due to the discrete nature of our articles. There is no 'One size fits all' I'm afraid. Happy editing. O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 08:53, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

I strongly encourage an infobox as such:

--CreiterAdam45z (talk) 10:38, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

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Recent edit[edit]

I've reverted this edit. It's truly awful, breaches a few points of the MoS, and I wonder why it was ever made. I'm genuinely perplexed by the addition of two "more sources" templates, neither of which seem to have any basis. Per WP:BRD and WP:STATUS QUO, I hope an explanation is forthcoming, rather than a version to such a sub-standard state. - SchroCat (talk) 05:58, 12 December 2017 (UTC)