Talk:Texas Rangers

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I've transplanted this discussion about a proposed article move from Talk:Texas Rangers (baseball) --Commander Keane 11:12, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Name change[edit]

I have moved the old contents of the page Texas Rangers to Texas Rangers (disambiguation), freeing up Texas Ranger for this article (about the baseball team)]. We will need an admin to move the page, and there is a backlog at the moment, so I'll wait a bit (or hope someone else take cares of it). Cheers, --Commander Keane 07:17, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

I think we should keep this in perspective: Someone in Liverpool or Baghdad or Melbourne or Bombay who wants to brush up on the US wild west is more apt to want the law enforcement agency. The only ones who would really want the baseball team first are probably Americans. My own opinion would be, from a www perspective, this page should be second fiddle. However, the formal name of the law enforment agency is "Texas Ranger Division", therefore, if this page is moved to Texas Rangers, I would like to see a disclaimer at the top of the page in italics offering the link to the law enforcement division. --CrazyTalk 19:28, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

I concur that the baseball team is second fiddle. I like the disambiguation page, although it might be bit verbose. But until such time (if any) that the baseball version of the Texas Rangers (who were named after the law enforcement division, let's not forget) happen to win the World Series (or even come close to getting there), it would be kind of pretentious to have them as the "top dog" in this category. Wahkeenah 19:33, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

I admit that I don't like it, mostly for selfish reasons because I work on a lot of the Texas Rangers articles and this adds an extra pain in the neck, but Texas Rangers should remain the disambiguation page. This is similar to the situation that arose at Saint Louis Blues and Georgia. RADICALBENDER 19:37, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

Yes, very similar to St. Louis Blues. Again, a team that was named after something, and then somehow its fans think the team should be the primary reference. Maybe they forgot that there's a good reason their logo looks like a musical note. Georgia is on my mind. And then there's the creature called Turkey.  :) Wahkeenah 19:50, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Someone reverted my MoS compliant disambiguation page, could you restore it to the new location please. --Commander Keane 06:03, September 4, 2005 (UTC)
Nevemrind, I'll do it myself. --Commander Keane 11:12, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Comment[edit]

Don't know if anybody monitors this discussion but ...

Though it is not a big deal IMHO Texas Rangers should redirect to Texas Ranger Division instead of being a redirect. Though I agree the baseball team is very well-known it is equally well-known that the team is named after the police unit and the police unit is at least as well-known as the sports team. In the same way that Dallas goes straight to the major city instead of a disambig that includes the TV show I would argue this should not automatically go to a disambig.

--Mcorazao (talk) 19:50, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

One year later. . . .  :-) I would question whether the police force is as well known as the sports team. see Wikipedia:Systemic bias. The average person does not have a college degree, and does not live near texas. The average person does have access to sports news. And if one were to look at article views for the sports team [1] (referenced several years back to take in account the recent spike in traffic due to Rangers current run in the playoffs) and police version [2], one could see that significantly more people are viewing the sports team over the police force. I would argue this shows that there is no primary topic for the plural form the term "Texas Rangers" and the disambig page belongs where it is. Oldag07 (talk) 11:43, 20 October 2010 (UTC)