Talk:Texas Rangers (baseball)
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Nationality of Players
Given the fact that baseball is becoming an increasingly more international sport (i.e., more non-U.S. leagues in existence, more non-U.S. players in the MLB), the roster formatting on Wikipedia should probably be updated to reflect that. If you look at the formatting for other international sports (such as soccer), the player nationalities are indicated using flag icons. I think this would be a beneficial update to each of the major league rosters in the MLB, it would not be too difficult to implement and it would not clutter the information on the page. However, before such change a change is implemented, I thought it would be healthy to achieve at least some form of consensus on the talk page for each team. yuristache (talk) 01:10, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
Way too much detail about this years playoffs on this page.. That information is already available on the 2010 season page and the various pages for the playoffs.. Should be removed from this page or certainly shortened a lot.. do not need game by game summaries on this page.Spanneraol (talk) 03:41, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- i agree. There are game by game summaries in each playoff section, and the summaries of the playoffs can be added to the 2010 article.Red3biggs (talk) 14:25, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
MLB ownership representation
Each MLB team may only have 1 representative for the organization with MLB ownership. Each team gets 1 vote when deciding issues by MLB owners. Whomever is representing the team must be approved by MLB owners by a vote, but the team itself selects the nominee.
In the case of the Rangers, Chuck Greenberg and Texas Rangers Express had to be approved by MLB owners before the sale from Hick's group could be complete. When Greeberg resigned, Nolan was selected by Rangers Baseball Express to take over as CEO and represent RBE with the other MLB owners. The owners did not designate Ryan to be the controlling owner, but accepted Ryan as the representative of RBE.
Unless you intend to go to each team page and put the same information 'designated Controlling Owner by MLB' it is misleading as to what it means. MLB has no day to day decision making on who runs the Rangers, or what decisions they make, except for compliance rules that must be followed by all other 30 teams. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Red3biggs (talk • contribs) 21:11, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
My intention was to accurately describe the ownership of the Rangers. My prior edit of the ownership statement in the box (along with a number of other edits, including misspellings) was reverted to an inaccurate statement; Nolan Ryan is not the owner of the Texas Rangers. As for the statement that he is the "designated controlling owner by MLB" that comes straight from the MLB story on the change and is cited as such in the body of the article. Thus, the disagreement is with MLB. As it currently stands, there's no reason to list Ryan as President and CEO in the box under owner(s); it should be just Rangers Baseball Express, LLC (much like the listing for the Yankees). If there was a published listing of all owners, it would make sense to list all of them in the box (perhaps), as it has been done with the Red Sox. I think keeping the description of his role and the approval by MLB in the body of the article makes sense as it clarifies Ryan's role. The "confusion" regarding the designation should be resolved with other authoritative sources. As for the specific representation that MLB has no say in the day to day operation of clubs (although perhaps aside from the point at hand), that's simply not true - see Dodgers, Expos, etc. Euclidjr (talk) 02:23, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
- I don't believe you corrections were undone (at least by me), nor do i think i called any information you have provided/found 'inaccurate', mearly misleading to any readers. And the bases for that is the phrase 'designated Controlling Owner by MLB' which is the way it is described in the article, even tho Ryan is not a majority owner of RBE. The reason the owners voted to approve Ryan to be the Rangers representative for the Rangers was not because MLB placed him into that position, but because the Rangers did. And when a change in ownership occurs, or in this case a change in who represents the ownership of a team, the other 29 owners, or representatives, must vote on it.
- Because of the wording they used in the articles, I believe to someone who does not understand the process, it could appear the Rangers are in some sort of default situation, when that is not the current case. As for the Dodgers currently, Expos formerly, and the Rangers last year, MLB did take some forms of control of those clubs. The Expos (now Washington) and Rangers currently are not under any form of restriction by MLB, except for those forms which all teams are always under.
- Rangers Baseball Express does currently own the team, and Ryan is both CEO and president of the club, and now as of May, 2011 represents the club in its relationship with other MLB owners. I don't believe listing Ryan individually, or in combination with RBE is in any way confusing or misleading to the readers, and the info box is certainly not the place to try and educate readers about the franchise relationship between MLB and MLB teams.Red3biggs (talk) 04:10, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
New "History of the Texas Rangers (baseball)" article proposal
This is long overdue. If the Florida Marlins have a history article, the Rangers definitely should. A rework to differentiate the Washington Senators II era should be done too...maybe make that into its own "History of" article should it warrant it. Arnabdas (talk) 16:27, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
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