Talk:Thailand in World War II
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Thailand was not occupied
Hey I don't think we can say thailand was occupied by japan. Thailand ceased fire during the fight and let the japanese troop pass. Thailand had its own government throu out WW2. There was only invasion, but no territory was occupied!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 17:38, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
The result of the Invasion of Thailand was cease fire. And how the heck did Japan occupy Thailand?? Though Japan had a lot political influence on Thailand but Thailand did not fall within the meaning of "occupied territory" at that time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 17:52, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
Biased in Contents without the evidence
This content "In fact, Japanese troops garrisoning throughout the country viewed Thailand as a "colony" rather than an "ally."" couldn't be found in the given references. Also, it appears in Spanish page which posted exactly in same English. Please check the references carefully, in fact, " Ultimately, the primary aim was to ensure the resolution of Thailand's sovereignty and establish an independent nation that would be regarded as an equal by the Allies."
- As I responded on my talk page, although the lack of a definitive reference for the existing content is somewhat troubling, the substitution of a phrase detailing the aims of the anti-Japanese underground as if they were the aims of the Japanese occupation itself is a greater problem. Fat&Happy (talk) 05:26, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
Commanders of Japanese Forces in Thailand
- 8 Dec 1941 - 4 Jan 1943: Iida Shojiro (b. 1888 - d. 1980)
- 4 Jan 1943 - 15 Aug 1945: Aketo Nakamura (b. 1889 - d. 1966)
I suggest that this article be renamed Thailand in World War II in order to better reflect its scope. Though Thailand was practically occupied by Japan, it retained its government and wasn't wholly passive during the entire affair. --Paul_012 (talk) 17:10, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
- Although I note you have already changed the title, I think the renaming is appropriate. Japan did not occupy Thailand in the manner of, say, Malaya or Singapore. Thailand was closer to an ally with an agreement between both Japan and Thailand, as well as Thailand forces participating in action with the Japanese in northern Burma. NealeFamily (talk) 09:05, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
Japanese occupation of Thailand or not?
The following exchange is copied from WT:WikiProject Thailand#Japanese occupation of Thailand or not? --Paul_012 (talk) 12:24, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
A debate has arisen about the naming of the page about Thailand during World War 2. There are apparently two views, one which I tend to subscribe to is that the Japanese did not occupy Thailand, and the other that they did. This has led to the question about the articles name.
My reasoning is that, from historic sources, the Thai government of the time initially informally agreed to the Japanese armies transiting through Thailand for their invasions of both Burma and Malaya. When the Japanese requested (to all intents and purposes in the form of an ultimatum) consent the government delayed responding and the Japanese entered Thailand anyway. By midday of that same day the Thai government consented to the Japanese passage and allied themselves with the Japanese.
From my reading it appears that the Thai government was left to govern the country and rewarded (if that is an appropriate term) for their co-operation with the northern Malay states and some Burmese territory. I am interested to know what project members think, whether this is a controversial matter, and what title is appropriate for the article. NealeFamily (talk) 22:49, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
- Can't comment on the rest, but so far as I know Britain had already surrendered control of the northern Malay states long before WWII.....remember reading about that, I th ink during some readings on Mongkut here in Wikipedia.....and why any land deal the Japanese made would have been honoured by the Allies after the war I just can't see. Britain and Thailand had already come to terms about that, as I recall in relation to a territory swap elsewhere; I'll see if I can find that again.....and yeah no doubt this is a touchy issue overall. Ally or occupied or "?" what exactly....language is political, and so are titles.....Skookum1 (talk) 04:22, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
- I understand that ༆ may be keen to revert the move, since indef-blocked user Pelaisse was previously engaged in POV-pushing on the topic. However, my reasoning (as given on the article talk page) still stands. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:55, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
- PS Filing a formal RM on the talk page would probably be the best venue for such discussion. Can't say I'm interested in participating though. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:58, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Did 1945 uprising happen?
The artice states "By the beginning of 1945, preparations were actively being pursued for a rising against the Japanese occupiers." and goes on to give details of those preparations, but it does not say if the uprising happened. We are next told of a new government. Could someone clarify this and provide details of what did happen?--agr (talk) 10:44, 9 September 2013 (UTC)