Talk:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints hymns
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Previous editions of LDS hymnal
This would be a great place for a list of hymns that were in previous editions of the hymn book, but are not in the current one. Anyone want to tackle this?Isaac Crumm 07:09, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
RE:Previous editions of LDS hymnal
You'll be at this for a while, if you try. I've dedicated an entire website to such as this, and the sheet music for them, and it'll be a while yet before I've done even what you mention here: there are a lot more LDS hymns and hymnals than one would think (certainly more than listed here), and I know there are more than I have listed on my website - especially if you count foreign ones, translations, children's songbooks, and such. They wouldn't fit well in a single article, anyway. There are also important songs not yet known to be in hymnals at all, such as the English version of Song of the Redeemed. I would suggest making a new article for each hymnal, as is done with The Manchester Hymnal. You can find a lot of information on http://www.hymnwiki.org/ about the other hymnals (including lyrics, sheet music, and such for those that are done). Shoreu 02:09, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
How about we move this page to Latter Day Saint hymns since many other Latter Day Saint denominations have used the same hymnals and hymns that have been used by the LDS Church. The stuff pertinent only the LDS Church (the latest hymnal, etc.) can be given its own section. The historical stuff applies to many denominations, as we share a common history. If no one objects, I'll make the move. -SESmith 05:19, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think this page should be moved. It is worthwhile to keep the specificity of the page intact. If moved, it would set the stage for it to be morphed into a "Restoration hymns" page which ultimately would be useful to only a very few. I am not opposed to a new Latter Day Saint hymns page at all, but this page should be kept as it is. The history (and hymnology) of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is a specific topic, where the intertwining and diverging histories and hymnologies of numerous denominations are brought together the appeal of the article rapidly plumets. Isaac Crumm 06:20, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
- But my point is this—apart from a special page for LDS Church hymns, what would be the rationale for having a specific page for the hymns of each separate Latter Day Saint denomination? Why not have one page that can discuss the common history and then branch off into the separate denominations later in the article—or at least direct you to a separate article for each denomination post-1844? Otherwise we will be reproducing the pre-1844 material 5 or 6 times in different articles, at least. I understand that the LDS Church's hymnals have been unique, but I faily to see how the appeal of the article would "plummet" by including more than one related denomination. If anything expanding the coverage will attract more readers, not less. Do we really want separate articles for the history of the hymns in the Community of Christ, The Church of Jesus Christ, the Church of Christ (Temple Lot), the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Strangite) and on and on and on? Most are using the many of the same "hymns of the Restoration" so it seems logical to keep the articles together, but have clearly delineated boundaries between denominations in the article beginning around 1844. It seems to me that (if anything) the attraction of the page would increase by having all Latter Day Saint denominations addressed in the same article. I have nothing against keeping a separate LDS Church hymns page if it's somehow important to some people to keep the post-1844 history separate, but I think the pre-1845 stuff at least should be consolidated on one page. -SESmith 09:34, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
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"Latter-day Saint Hymns" (1927, 1936, etc.)
I believe the table under the heading "1936 hymnal" has incorrect songs in the left column. I'm interested in finding out where that list came from, and if there's a missing puzzle piece somewhere.
The BYU Harold B. Lee Library has 4 or 5 editions of the book. I indexed an edition marked November 1927 and one marked July 1936. I only saw two differences, noted here (hymns 392 and 402 changed their titles): http://singpraises.net/collection/latter-day-saint-hymns/editions?lang=eng&edition=1927&edition=1936&sort=a
I also looked at an edition without a date, that I originally thought was the 1927 first edition, but it turns out that the contents are the same as the July 1936 edition, so I think it must be later. The library also has a December 1928 and March 1940 edition, which I haven't looked at in detail yet, but I don't expect they will be very different.