Talk:The Drew Carey Show
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- 1 Oswald Lee Harvey?
- 2 DVD Releases
- 3 Jumping The Shark
- 4 Trivial Pursuit
- 5 Cleavland Rocks?
- 6 NPOV?
- 7 Wanda Sykes
- 8 Fix or vandalism?
- 9 South Park Republican?
- 10 Wording?
- 11 Show background
- 12 Gus' naming contest
- 13 Looking for help writing an article about the spin-offs and crossovers of this series
- 14 Drew's band?
- 15 Unsourced material
- 16 Blonde
- 17 Coma
- 18 Ed
- 19 Mr. Wick
- 20 Request for semiprotection
- 21 Buzz Beer No Longer Fictional
- 22 Blonde lady in a fat suit?
- 23 Competed with Monday Night Football (MNF)?
- 24 Errors
- 25 The Amazing Ballet sequence
Oswald Lee Harvey?
- No. The name choice was obviously a joke. The show was, after all, a comedy. Captain Quirk (talk) 02:09, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
I attended a taping of The Price is Right on July 8th, 2009, and was able to ask drew about the dvd's. According to him it may be quite a while until it is released on DVD because of syndication issues with time warner and abc. Since I have no source for this beyond first hand experience I'm adding it here rather than the article page. --WCarter (talk) 19:39, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Jumping The Shark
Would adding this article to a category called "Historical Shark Jumps" be POV, or would it be indeed encyclopedic to the purpose of providing exemplary cases of television shows jumping the shark to someone researching such a thing?
"Jumping the shark" is very POV and very subjective. Just let the numbers and facts tell the story. Azn Clayjar 15:18, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- Azn is correct, but boy, did this show jump the shark! Big time. The extent to which it jumped is jaw-dropping. I liked this offbeat show during its first several years, but then it became the Corey Haim of shark jumping. 16:52, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia's bias against Trivia sections is a big load. If the section was renamed "Cultural References," then it becomes perfectly acceptable according to Wikipedia rules. How can the administrators justify that? --M.Neko (talk) 07:59, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
- In my opinion, there are many such inconsistencies in WP because the policies are not meant to be rigid and specific, but guidelines produced by consensus of the community of editors. You (and anyone) are free to propose new policies (I an an ordinary editor who actually made such a proposal, which was considered and eventually rejected by other editors after much deliberation). As for the editing policies of WP, they are determined mostly by editors, not by administrators. David Spector (talk) 23:26, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
Thier seems to be no mention of the "Cleavland Rocks" theame ssing in this article. It should probobly be mentioned.
I added references to Cleveland Rocks. -- Broken Arms Gordon 17:26, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
It seems to me that this article is written in a loving way, and not the proper NPOV way. An example is the phrase "He was a welcome addition to the cast." I'm not sure an encyclopedia should be deciding whom is a "welcome addition" to anything. Adding the NPOV boilderplate.
I recall Wanda Sykes as a cast memeber on the show for a brief period, but I honestly had stopped watching at that point. She needs to be included as well, if she was a major cast member if only for a season. -- Broken Arms Gordon 17:28, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
- According to the Internet Movie Database, she was only on for three episodes.  --Metropolitan90 07:56, August 22, 2005 (UTC)
Yes I think the Sharon character deserves to be mentioned. She was on the show for 12 episodes according to imdb. Also the character of Chuck the security guard should also be mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 23:23, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Fix or vandalism?
This edit changed "Louder" to "Lauder". I known nothing of the topic. Normally, I'd presume something like this was a correction, but the person who did it appears to be a serial vandal. Will someone who knows the topic please have a look? - Jmabel | Talk 14:52, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
I fixed the problem, the correct name of the department store is Winfred-Louder. This is according to the official site of the show. --Nehrams2020 23:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
South Park Republican?
When was it revealed on the show that Kate was a "South Park Republican"?
". This series was not the same like many other highly-rated, long-running sitcoms that in order to avoid cancellation, beginning in 2001, ABC quickly signed contracts in order to keep the show fresh, but the show went beyond repair and the network wouldn't allow the show to be released from their contracts."
What does this even mean? The grammar is so bad it's all but unintelligible.
Is there really a need to include references to other TV shows in this section? Surely "However, the show further sank in ratings the following season, unlike many other live sitcoms. Even its series finale's ratings were lower than otherwise would have been expected." would suffice?
The latest edit, ie "However, the show further sank in ratings the following season, unlike many live sitcoms whose series finales were behind, M*A*S*H, Cheers, Married... with Children, Mad About You, Home Improvement, Sex and the City, Frasier, and Friends, whose ratings have dominated. Its series finale had low ratings unlike the many sitcoms that had high ratings before, Everybody Loves Raymond, Will & Grace and The King of Queens, which garnered higher ratings" seems disjointed, doesn't make sense and the references to other programs don't really add anything to the article.--AussieLegend 09:55, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- The babble you speak of is the work of User:Italianlover07, who does that sort of rot all the time and insists on putting it back after you delete it. I have strong suspicions that he's a sockpuppet of another user, but I don't have the patience to go through the 15-step process to report him since it won't do a bit of good anyway. Lambertman 12:35, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Gus' naming contest
How about mentioning that Gus was named during a viewer contest?
Looking for help writing an article about the spin-offs and crossovers of this series
I am writing an article about all of the series which are in the same shared reality as this one through spin-offs and crossovers. I could use a little help expanding the article since it is currently extremely dense and a bit jumbled with some sentence structures being extremely repetitive. I would like to be able to put this article into article space soon. Any and all help in writing the article would be appreciated, even a comment or two on the talk page would help. Please give it a read through, also please do not comment here since I do not have all of the series on my watch list. - LA @ 16:36, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
The following is unsourced information:
- In Carey's bestselling book, Dirty Jokes and Beer, he revealed a list of subject matter that the censors objected to, such as mild language, sexual innuendo, and one episode that made light of a character's mental instability. Carey also mentions that in one second-season episode, he was forced to wear puffy pants because when he sits with tight pants, ABC thought he had an erection, a situation later parodied on the show.
- What page?
- The season 5 episode "Drew Goes to the Browns Game", which coincided with the team returning to the NFL that season, showed the team playing the Minnesota Vikings in their "first game back" when Drew ran onto the field. In reality, the team played their archrivals, the Pittsburgh Steelers, in their first game back, losing 43-0. Carey had been one of the most vocal Browns fans when the original team moved to Baltimore during the show's first season. Carey even did the coin toss for the game, which was nationally televised on ABC's sister network ESPN.
- In one episode with sci-fi props there is a model of a spacecraft from the miniseries V can be seen on a kitchen table.
- Mr. Wick was named by head writer Clay Graham after an old girlfriend who had dumped him in order to "immortalize her treachery."
- Marion Ross made occasional guest appearances as Drew's mother. Her Happy Days co-star Tom Bosley and Tammy Faye Bakker appeared in one episode as Mimi's parents, and she herself was called "Mrs. Cunningham" in an April Fools episode as an intentional goof, referring to Ross' role on Happy Days. 70's sexpot Adrienne Barbeau appeared a few times as Oswald's mother. Lost in Space star, June Lockhart appeared twice as Lewis' mother. Christa Miller's real life aunt Susan Saint James once appeared as Kate's mother. Shirley Jones of The Partridge Family played a senior citizen whom Drew dated for 3 episodes.
- The character of Maggie Wick, Nigel Wick's mother, was originally written for Australian comic actor Dame Edna. When he was unable at the last moment to appear, actor Richard Chamberlain was approached, and he agreed to play the part in drag. One year later, Chamberlain officially "came out" as gay in his autobiography, "Shattered Love."
- In one episode, the guys try to help raise money to help replace Mrs. Louder`s prize showdog, Lucky, whom they accidentally had neutered at a vet`s office. They decide to do an all-male striptease dressed as package-delivery men at the Warsaw to the tune of You Ain`t Seen Nothin` Yet by Bachman-Turner Overdrive. As the guys do their routine on the bartop, the camera shows the patrons, and in the audience are several cast members from the very popular British movie at the time, The Full Monty. The guys are arrested for public nudity and at their trial, the same The Full Monty cast members are seen seated in the audience.
- The producers experimented with different filming techniques the last season. For a few episodes, instead of using the traditional four camera format in front of a live audience, a single camera technique using a "fourth wall" was employed. The experiment was short-lived after the cast, crew, and producers felt the energy was better in front of the large studio audience.
- When "Weird Al" Yankovic appeared on the show, he had recently undergone Lasik surgery and had shaved, so he no longer had his trademark glasses and mustache. The producers felt that the audience would not recognize him and get the "You didn't say you played the accordion..." joke, so they outfitted him with fake glasses and mustache.
- The episode, "My Best Friend's Wedding" had an opening scene that combined live-action with animation where Daffy Duck asks Drew for a job at Winfred-Lauder. Gerry Cohen directed the live-action portion of that sequence and Jeff Siergey directed the animation.
- The bar that Drew and his friends would always go to in the show was called "The Warsaw Tavern." The inspiration for "The Warsaw Tavern" is called "Murphy's Law" and is located on Memphis Ave. in the Old Brooklyn part of Cleveland, Ohio. This was one of Drew's favorite bars he would frequent in real life. The actual exterior structure of Murphy's Law is used on the TV show, although the interior is entirely different. Murphy's Law has autographed pictures of most of the cast members on the walls.
- John Carroll Lynch, who plays Drew's older brother, Steve, is actually five years younger than Drew Carey. The character of Kellie, who went to high school with Carey, was played by Cynthia Watros, who is ten years younger than he.
While this is interesting, we can't use it unless you provide a source. Also, none of this is really trivia, as trivia by its definition is "unimportant information" - it therefore shouldn't be in a trivia section but instead the information should be incorporated into the main article. - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 11:15, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
"Lewis Kiniski (Ryan Stiles) - Forms a double-act with Oswald. Lewis, who is tall, lanky, and blonde" -Men are blond, women are blonde...in English as well as French. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 21:49, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
there was a guy with long blond hair, sunglasses, and played guitar named ed who was a recurring character. whys there no mention of him? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 04:36, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Craig Ferguson was definitely away filming a movie at the time of NeverEnding Store. You can tell because on a few episodes where he is the janitor at NeverEnding Store, his hair is long like it is in I'll Be There, which he was filming at the time. 18.104.22.168 (talk) 02:06, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Request for semiprotection
I'm requesting a semiprotect on this article due to persistent recurring vandalism to Mr. Wick's part of the Characters section. Seriously, I don't get why people keep doing this, but every time I come back to the page, what do I see? Vandalism. And it's only targeted at Mr. Wick. I don't know for sure, but because it's only targeting him and because of the content (saying Mr. Wick is "bisexual" and "has a cock second in length only to Drew Pickles") I think it looks like Barney Bunch-type vandalism. There have also been racist edits made that replaced his profile with ebonics ( here is where it's worst). Today I come on here and minutes before, someone has replaced his biography with Fall Out Boy lyrics. Seriously? MotherFerginPrincess (talk) 15:02, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Buzz Beer No Longer Fictional
I recently noticed Buzz Beer popping up at the LCBO, and was interested to see that there exists a beer made from Hemp! So I went to good ol' Wikipedia to read more, and was diappointed to see that Buzz Beer is a redirect to The Drew Carey Show. Despite the fact that (the real) Buzz Beer is not actually a caffeinated beer as it is in The Drew Carey Show, it is no longer a fictional brand name. I'd recommend creating a stub for the real Buzz Beer with a bit of its history, if anyone has the know-how to do so. Thanks. 22.214.171.124 (talk) 06:13, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
That is correct. The beer has been around for close to a decade (could be more, could be less). I just bought a 2-4 of it. Here's the info straight from the horse's mouth: http://www.coolbeer.com/beers.html BUZZ BEER Millennium Buzz Beer is a hemp-based red lager made with the finest B.C. hemp, dark roasted Alberta malt and choice German hops. It’s cold-filtered with no preservatives or additives. This healthy mix of pure, wholesome ingredients – plus the natural goodness of hemp – accounts for its singularly clean, smooth refreshing taste. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 21:53, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
I created a separate page.. I'll see if I can whip up an image as well (I have a setup for photographing small objects for sale on an auction site), but somebody might wish to include a link to this article in case people were researching the fictional beer from the show. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FiReSTaRT (talk • contribs) 14:47, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
- As far as I am aware, The Buzz Beer that is available in Ontario, Canada was not related to this show in any way. I would be interested to know what air date was the first mention of it on the show though, just to know which came first, the chicken or the egg Exit2DOS • Ctrl • Alt • Del 07:45, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
Blonde lady in a fat suit?
Drew was dating the really hot blonde woman for a while. For some reason writers decided to change the storyline and had the character become really fat (via a fat suit). As Drew and her are about to make a sex tape, she suddenly becomes very self-concious about her weight, freaks out, and breaks up with Drew. Piss poorly-written episode/storyline, but you already knew that. She returns a season or two later, magically thin again. None of this isn't mentioned in the article, though. --188.8.131.52 (talk) 04:59, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Competed with Monday Night Football (MNF)?
This show aired on ABC for its entire run, correct? If so, it could not have competed again MNF, as MNF aired on ABC as well (until 2005). But I am not sure if it did air on ABC for its entire run (though I've seen no indication it aired elsewhere), so I didn't want to go ahead and edit it myself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 18:05, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
- The Drew Carey Show did have its entire run on ABC. However, when it aired on Monday night before Monday Night Football, it did in effect clash with football, because (a) on the West Coast, Carey was moved so that MNF could air live and Carey would air after the game, and (b) in the home cities of the teams playing in that night's game, Carey might be pre-empted so the local ABC station could air a pregame show. (I know that the Pittsburgh station did this once, although I can't find other information about that.) --Metropolitan90 (talk) 21:44, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
This page contains numerous errors (however small they may be). I am currently part way through Season 9, and once i have finished it i will be checking through the whole article for incorrect information. Until then, i will attempt to correct mistakes in describing the earlier seasons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheMovieManiac (talk • contribs) 14:59, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
The Amazing Ballet sequence
The article describes the themes of many shows, but fails to describe one of the most amazing sequences in television history, the amazing ballet consisting of first one character walking through the workplace set in a strange way, then again over and over, each time with one additional character added to the "ballet". The sequence is done using a special effect in which each time through, each character's unique weird walk interleaves with all of the other characters' previous weird walks to make a very complex completed ballet by the last walkthrough.
The result is strange, intriguing, and very entertaining at the same time, and I believe is quite unique in all of television. This sequence easily deserves to be described in the article. David Spector (talk) 23:05, 23 October 2015 (UTC)