Talk:The Farm (Tennessee)

NPOV

Claims that the Farm hosts 'famous midwives' and one of its founders was a 'mother of modern midwifery' must be sourced at the least, this looks like a very distinct POV. Certainly, there are probably other claimants to the throne of 'mother of modern midwifery?' Kit 03:49, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, they are famous. As to the claim that Ina May Gaskin is the "mother of modern midwifery," that could be investigated further. Keep in mind that midwifery appeared to have gone the way of the dodo by the mid 20th century. There is no doubt that they brought it back to a new level of credibility—first with the counter culture and then, increasingly with the mainstream. Having raised this, the ball is in your court to do the research. I hate NPOV tags (preferring to do the work and edit accordingly), but this is your show. So I would like you to look into this right away, please. Sunray 06:15, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

I think the NPOV tag is useful for an editor who wishes to raise questions about the neutrality of an article but does not have the expertise to fix the topic themselves, which is the case here with myself. I do not have the ability to determine whether someone is a mother of modern midwifery or anything similar. Someone who is knowledgeable about midwifery should be the one to handle that, IMHO. As to the first statement I will try to make some improvements. Kit 08:07, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Hopefully the language is a bit less flamboyant now. If someone wants to reinsert the 'mother of modern midwifery' claim they can find a source and do it in a NPOV fashion. As it is expanded, this page needs sources for such claims. Kit 08:13, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

I also feel that the entry on the Farm could benefit from more discussion on Ina May's contribution to the field of midwifery. She IS considered the "mother of modern midwifery," although I do not at this time have a source for that title. However, probably every midwife working in the USA today knows her name and she has had a maneuver named for her--the Gaskin maneuver for managing shoulder dystocia during delivery. She has written two books on midwifery, Spiritual Midwifery and Ina May's Guide to Childbirth. Spiritual Midwifery includes birth stories from women who delivered on the Farm with Ina May and the other midwives there. AnnaMalena (talk) 23:48, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I certainly agree that there should be more about the midwives of the Farm in this article. You can find sources for this in the Ina May Gaskin article. It's hard to find articles online that give good overview of Midwifery in the early days of the farm. Here's a link to the Vegetarian Times article "Mother of Midwifery", which gives some details (perhaps sufficient for The Farm article). If you need any help, let me know. Sunray (talk) 23:52, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Mother of midwifery

Consider the following:

• "The Midwife of modern midwifery: From her Tennessee commune, Ina May Gaskin almost single-handedly inspired-the rebirth of midwifery in this country"

—Katie Allison Granju Salon.com Salon Brilliant Careers, June 1, 1999

• "Mother of midwifery: Ina May Gaskin hopes to birth a local movement of midwives"

—Carol Wiley Lorente Vegetarian Times , July 1995.

132.192.6.64 13:30, 26 March 2007 (UTC) Then there is the claim that all communication was by CB Radio... what about the switchboard? I know we had telephones in the mid-late 70s... and under 18 teens were not supposed to smoke... though I'll admit there was undoubtedly a lot slipped off the household tray and I know of patches out in the woods... and Ice-Bean was more than a 1 year experiment... Farm Foods of Texas (at the Austin Farm) made a business out of it. ttyl Frank of the Dogwood Blossom (aka Dogwood 1, next to the Dogwood Rd. Solar House, and later the Austin Farm).

Lewis County

I see a link for Lawerence Co. Just noting that the Farm is in Lewis Co. --jidanni

Summerville, the closest town, is in Lawrence. Can you provide a citation that it is in Lewis? Kit O'Connell (Todfox: user / talk / contribs) 11:03, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

The Farm, in fact, is in Lewis County. See this page: http://tennesseeencyclopedia.net/imagegallery.php?EntryID=T082

Note, the cite above is dead. Archived link here: https://web.archive.org/web/20070930165354/http://tennesseeencyclopedia.net/imagegallery.php?EntryID=T082 Geoff | ^{Who, me?} 17:17, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

And just to confuse things further, this link puts The Farm (Summertown, TN) in Lawrence County per census data while this link has it in Lewis County. And the Wikipedia article on Summertown, TN lists The Farm as a noted local entity. However, the article does note that "Summertown is an unincorporated community and census-designated place (CDP) in Lawrence County, Tennessee with a small portion in both Lewis County and Maury County." Maybe everyone is correct? Geoff | ^{Who, me?} 17:26, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

The Farm land is entirely geographically located entirely within the borders of Lewis County, as can be clearly seen on any Lewis County map. The town of Summertown, on the other hand, is not at the same geographic location as The Farm. Baleywik 2021

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Wikipedians who lived on The Farm (Tennessee)

Sign me up for a future Category:Wikipedians who lived on The Farm (Tennessee) (in 1977) or whatever you want to call it. Jidanni (talk) 03:27, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Me too. I will never eat another boiled wheat berry again. Yuck.

They're better if you sprout them and add to a salad, but probably not gluten-free! rags (talk) 10:23, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Technology

Added a technology section, since The Farm seemed to be quite vocal from the beginning about making technology work for them whenever possible. The section begs for more researched information about the "Appropriate Technology" and Alternate Energy themes, which historically seemed to have been an important factor in the philosophy of The Farm. This seemed to be somewhat of a departure from the typical hippie back-to-nature spiritual movement of the early 1970s. Also, it appears from some oral history, that they were into such things as the use of early portable reel-to-reel video tape for recording events, building of huge sound systems for concerts, recording studios, FM radio station WUTZ, etc. Sadly, the general impression is, that the whole article is somewhat haphazard, needs better formatting, and certainly cries for more cites. At this point, there are a multitude of books, newspaper, web, and media articles available for citation references on the subject of The Farm. Baleywik (talk) 19:11, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

• added some cites and worked on the structure.Baleywik (talk) 22:35, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

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Farming?

The article doesn't mention farming as an activity at the Farm. Given the name and the passing mention of opening a vegetable store, it seems likely that there is/was some farming being done, but it would benefit the article to have more information on the type and scale of farming.Dialectric (talk) 10:50, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

They grew lots of soybeans, all of their vegetables, marijuana until the bust, and, notably, sorghum, for which they built a sorgum mill to make sorghum molassas, marketed through co-ops and health stores with the 'Ice Bean', under the label 'Old Beatnik'. As the story goes, the plans for the mill were ordered from the Govt Printing Office catalog from the patent office application, but no one else had ever built one. I no longer have the books, and 'The Farm Book' is out of print, but might be found in a library. In early days, I think they may have used horse-drawn equipment, as photographs indicated, and that would be in line with 'self-sufficient' philosophy. The 'Anniston Star,' once an excellent local newspaper in Anniston, AL, ran a feature article on The Farm, possibly a series, probably late 70's. I no longer have my copy of that, as well, but they may have computerized their "morgue," if that's the correct term. rags (talk) 11:25, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

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Merge proposal: More Than Warmth to The Farm (Tennessee)#Organisations

MTW has been in CAT:NN's crazy backlog for over 11 years. It doesn't have the coverage for a stand-alone article, but it would be a shame to delete when a merge is a suitable WP:ATD. Boleyn (talk) 10:58, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

• Support merge per Boleyn's note. Should be a pretty simple one. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 15:49, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
• Boldly merged. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 14:58, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Which two kinds of energy?

One sentence reads"

""For a community to exist in harmony and balance, both kinds of energy had to be nurtured, and most importantly shared.""

(Although it appears that this quote is from Stephen Gaskin, it is unattributed in the text.)

But there has been no recent mention of two kinds of energy in the article, so it is entirely unclear which "two kinds of energy" are referred to here. 2601:200:C000:1A0:DD91:A900:A86F:27B0 (talk) 01:33, 8 September 2022 (UTC)