Talk:The Halo Graphic Novel
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On the Amazon page linked to from this article the book is titled: Halo: The Graphic Novel, not the Halo graphic novel as shown in the article. RayGates 00:28, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
- The title on the book it-self is Halo Graphic Novel
I updated a lot of infromation on the main page so i hope that is ok, edit it if you want, i also added a picture of the front cover
Many of the links of the artists lead to non-corresponding people, many of whom are deceased sport stars. 188.8.131.52 13:50, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
OK, all the links have been updated with the proper corresponding people, i did have trouble finding four people sites, but i believe i found them. Any error tell me and i will look for them --184.108.40.206 14:39, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Has the Legate been assimilated by the Flood? While it is certainly possible that he was, this isn't shown in the comic (and I suspect that such an important event would be displayed) and the Phantom that the Legate's team was to summon was waiting at the end of the comic for Rtas to escape. We also have no idea if any other Prophets were on board the ship or not, and if there were, they could also have been assimilated. In the effort to prevent an edit war from starting, I'd like to discuss whether this is the case or not. Peptuck 21:35, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
In my opinion, yes he has been assimilated by the Flood, as i am the one who keeps putting it up there =P. But simply at the top of page 50, if that isn't an assimilated Legate, What creature is it then? From my observation; its face looks like a Legate, it even has those dangling balls things from the Legate’s face. It has all the facial similarities that match the Legate, the shape of its head and the position of the eyes. If you took away that flood infested body in the background, How can that not look or be a Prophet?
Now I will admit there is a very remote possibility that, yes it may be another prophet, but I highly doubt it. For one the lesser Prophets wouldn't travel around in two's or more, except for the three main ones. Also on page 38, the Legate says "they came aboard and I locked down the primary systems and came here", doesn't that first singular pronoun "I" give you a big hint that he is the only prophet aboard, and that he "by himself" locked the systems down, and also the fact that he is the only one in the locked room. Also if another prophet had been assimilated, wouldn't they now know how to get into that room?
We know they signalled the Glorious Advance drop ship, but we have no idea if they made it safely off with Rtas, there is no evidence to support if they are also on the ship. Who knows the group could have been attacked before the ship came, they could have been pushed into another room, and there are a number of possibilities. Also we didn't see the assimilation of Regret, he was already assimilated into Gravemind and is almost apart of his body.--220.127.116.11 00:04, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- I agree that the entity certainly does look like a prophet, but whether it is the Legate is still up for debate and cannot be verified.
"For one the lesser Prophets wouldn't travel around in two's or more, except for the three main ones."
- How do we know this? There are dozens of Prophets on the High Council, and we haven't seen many Prophets elsewhere, so what's to say that they don't operate in groups?
"Also on page 38, the Legate says "they came aboard and I locked down the primary systems and came here", doesn't that first singular pronoun "I" give you a big hint that he is the only prophet aboard, and that he "by himself" locked the systems down, and also the fact that he is the only one in the locked room."
- "I" doesn't mean he is the only Prophet on board. "I" means that he is the only one who locked down the systems. There could still have been other Prophets on board.
"Also if another prophet had been assimilated, wouldn't they now know how to get into that room?"
- Because no one else outside the Legate knows about that room. The Legate himself says as much.
"We know they signalled the Glorious Advance drop ship, but we have no idea if they made it safely off with Rtas, there is no evidence to support if they are also on the ship."
- There is also no evidence that they are not on the ship either. Those panels are inconclusive in this regard.
"Also we didn't see the assimilation of Regret, he was already assimilated into Gravemind and is almost apart of his body."
- But in such a case the Prophet clearly identifies himself as Regret, leaving no doubt as to his identity. The assimilated entity does not identify itself. The evidence that the entity is the Legate is strong, but not conclusive or verifiable. Any conclusions drawn thusly are original research. Peptuck 21:07, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
If this “second” prophet is so important then why did they not show him? And wouldn’t R’tas have made a comment or query about a Prophet being missing, if there indeed was meant to be two on board. Also a Prophet not telling another Prophet that he has a room for protection and study, which no one else knows about, would not be a secret to just one Prophet.
The most obvious and glaring reason that that first came to my mind was a conflicting of orders, contrast this between Mercy and Truth; Mercy was reactionary and authoritarian nature, “make an example out of him”. While Truth has a manipulative nature of using people for his own needs. It is a simple thing of individuality and every one is different, one must be offence, while one is defensive and another goes a different route. It would be very conflicting for an order to be done properly with so many different opinions.
The difference between Regret (assimilated) and Legate (assimilated) is that Gravemind used Regret, by reanimating his body, so that his views could be argued. While the Legate was just assimilated not reanimated like Regret was.
Your argument about having “two” prophets is not conclusive or verifiable either.
But I would like to thank you for putting up “Near the end of the story, Rtas is confronted by a Flood "brain form" entity on the monitor, which bears a resemblance to the Legate that was on board. Whether the Prophet in question was or wasn't consumed by the Flood is unconfirmed.”--18.104.22.168 00:42, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
I'd say having a little more to explain wahat happens throughout the novels is perfectly fine, as long as we don't get all crazy and overboard. Dåvid Fuchs (talk / frog blast the vent core!) 16:14, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
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Comments on good article nomination
- Prose is comprehensible (could be better), grammar is correct, and the structure is clear at first reading. The structure is logical, contains a good lead section summarising the topic, text is organised. Does not violate standards in Wikipedia Manual of style. Links to specific terms present - SPARTAN II MJOLNIR Mark VI battle armor etc. Done
- Article should be named, Halo (graphic novel) as in accordance with other graphic novels.
- It is factually accurate and verifiable. However, different sections use same source repeatedly meaning most material is derived from minimum sources and little cross-checking. No OR apparent. Done
- Broad in coverage? Do not know. Do not know of the Halo Universe. However, "takes place during" comments seem to indicate that entire Halo chronology is considered and hence broad coverage is given.
- NPOV. Reception indicates both criticisms and praise. Rest of article is written in an unbiased perspective. Done
- Doesn't appear to change significantly. The following comparison within one month doesn't show significant differences. Done
- Could use more images in my opinion.
Please fix the minor requirements for completeness sake. Also, once you're done do rate the other articles on the good articles nomination page after comparing with WP:WIAGA. Zuracech lordum 15:04, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
There are some things that have to be done- proper lead and refs, for instance, plus some info updating- but this could conceivably be a FA. Anyone gonna help? David Fuchs (talk) 00:42, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
- Drop a note into the Comics Project talk page. It is looking pretty solid at the moment so getting a few more eyes on this and see how it goes. (Emperor 00:53, 12 August 2007 (UTC))
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