Talk:The Karate Kid Part III
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- 1 Possible POV problem
- 2 Fair use rationale for Image:Karate kid part III.jpg
- 3 Bye Plot Hole
- 4 Large cleanup
- 5 Bill Conti's musical addition
- 6 Gross revenue?
- 7 Modified sentence describing technique Daniel used to win
- 8 Robert Mark Kamen interview on Karate Kid Part 3
- 9 Development or production
- 10 Requested move
- 11 Move discussion in progress
- 12 Correct WikiQuote Link
- 13 Poor John Kesse
Possible POV problem
The criticism section seems very one sided and also seems to use a lot of "weasel words" like "many thought that..." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 15:36, 22 April 2007 (UTC).
Fair use rationale for Image:Karate kid part III.jpg
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BetacommandBot 04:18, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Bye Plot Hole
According to this article, the tourney bye given to the reigning champ is an obvious plot hole. But the film very prominently explains it as a new rule. Even if it's a flimsy excuse, this article seems to ignore the fact the one-match-only rule is explained, and doesn't disagree with the original film. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 03:34, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- I agree. I just finished watching the movie and the announcer clearly states over the PA that the reigning champion only needs to fight in the final match; that this is a new rule. The article should be worded differently. --Noxia (talk) 00:39, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
I will also add, having partipated in many karate tournaments, that it is not that unusual for the previous year's grand champion to be given an automatic spot in the grand championship the next year. That would be somewhat difficult to explain in the context of the movie, and it comes off as a bit of a deus ex machina, but it is not an atrocious plot hole. Likewise the scoring and losing of points is not as outrageous as the article suggests. Many tournaments allow repeated fouls before even considering disqualification, even with the outrageous behavior. It is unusual, but not completely impossible. What is truly absurd in both this and the first movie is a bunch of kids under 18 competing without any protective gear, particularly mouthpieces and helmets, but also food and handguards, and allowing such extreme contact. I would really like to know where they got insurance for that! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 07:43, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
I trimmed plot section, and removed most of the reception section because (as pointed out earlier on the page, albeit 20 months ago) it was 90% weasel words and point of view statements sourced from mostly user reviews on yout run-of-the-mill movie fan site.
Still, the article could use a ton of work. With the proper sources, a lot of interesting info about this film could go right back up. Also, the few legitimate citations on this article need some proper formatting. Saw this on hulu last night - it's a guilty pleasure of mine from the 80s, so hope it gets in good shape soon. - SoSaysChappy (talk) 09:54, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
UPDATE: Please, do not re-insert the poorly written and lengthy critical section that has been claimed to all come from "legitimate" sources. imdb is not a reliable source (it can be edited by anyone) and epinion and fanedit are by no means the platform of notable critics, but rather the musings of mere fans (key words: opinion! edit!). - SoSaysChappy (talk) 21:28, 14 January 2009 (UTC) Article still needs vast amount of work. Currently appears to be a highly detailed plot summary and little else. - 65536 —Preceding undated comment added 11:24, 13 October 2011 (UTC).
Bill Conti's musical addition
Modified sentence describing technique Daniel used to win
The technique Daniel used to make the final blow after the takedown was not a punch, but a strike. A palm strike to be specific.If you you notice, before the takedown and palm strike, Daniel was performing the kata that he and Mr. Miyagi practice throughout the movie.. . while performing the kata, they never performed the kata with closed hands; their hands were always opened. The final movement of the kata starts off with Daniel's left arm is raised above his head with his fingers opened and held as an open-handed strike and not a close-handed punch.
Looks like someone changed my edit from "a strike" to "a punch". I will change it back to "strike". Also, the throw wasn't an "over-the-shoulder throw". If it was an over-the-shoulder throw, than Mike would have been actually touching Daniel, but he wasn't. There was a definite space between Mike and Daniel. If someone disagrees with me, I would definitely like to discuss the change and the entire technique in general.
Robert Mark Kamen interview on Karate Kid Part 3
- http://web.archive.org/web/20121012012524/http://www.craveonline.com/film/interviews/197469-not-a-sequel-robert-mark-kamen-on-taken-2-bloodsport-and-karate-kid?start=1 - http://www.webcitation.org/6OJEz1dzR
Development or production
The Reception section currently ends with a comment beginning with, "Kamen was so disgusted with the way Daniel LaRusso (Macchio's character) was altered from his portrayal in the script to his portrayal in The Karate Kid, Part III that he refused to involve himself in The Next Karate Kid, [...]" It may be useful to include either a Development or a Production section which might elaborate on the context of this statement. — al-Shimoni (talk) 03:53, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
Move discussion in progress
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:The Karate Kid, Part II which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 14:45, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
Correct WikiQuote Link
The correct WikiQuote Link is https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Karate_Kid,_Part_III - Please correct because I have no idea how to do so. LReyome254 (talk) 01:09, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
Poor John Kesse
His life is now forever ruined. Bankrupt, humiliated, and shunned by his friends, his karate, all that time he spent devoted to martial arts, only backfired for him. Now he has nothing to live for. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 03:57, 6 February 2017 (UTC)