Talk:The Lonely Goatherd

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Pop culture references[edit]

The solution to the problem "these are unsourced" is not to delete them, but to find sources. All of those are true. I put the list together via researching around the web via places that aren't allowed to be cited here, such as Youtube for the first and last one, and other Wikipedia articles for several of the others (there's probably a rule against Wikipedia citing itself), which are all linked in. If you have a problem with the lack of proper sources, by all means find a way to source them to your satisfaction.

Also, a note on why the list exists in the first place: because it demonstrates that the song is notable enough to be included in Wikipedia. I created the list to (successfully) defend this article from an AfD. Therefore it seems to me that, to avoid any future notability questions, the list needs to stay.

Nerwen (talk) 04:50, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Ten years later, and there's not a single citation (legitimate or otherwise) on the entire page. Whether or not one "feels" that a song is notable on its own outside of the context of its source musical does not make it notable. The archived discussion to keep this page is hardly convincing either; lots of "feelings" there too. "I put the list together via researching around the web via places that aren't allowed to be cited here" means that the list is effectively bogus. I don't know how one "proposes" deletion, but that should happen. NewkirkPlaza (talk) 14:07, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

word usage?[edit]

I don't get the title/lyrics of the song. Isn't a "goat herd" a group of goats, and a "goat herder" the one who watches them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.91.102.204 (talk) 14:40, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

See Goatherd, a.k.a. goatherder. Similar to "shepherd", which is English slurring of "sheepherd". A group of goats would be a "herd of goats", not a "goatherd". Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 14:54, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Normally, by the usual rules of English, yes: a "goat herd" (or "goatherd") would be a group, or herd, of goats, with the first noun, "goat", being used as an attributive adjective to describe the second noun, "herd" (as occurs in "table leg" or "bookshelf" or "teacup", for example). However, "goatherd" has a different meaning, that of a person who looks after a herd of goats. The same thing happens with "shepherd" and "cowherd", which mean a person who looks after sheep ("shep" being from "sheep") or cows. Of these three words ("goatherd", "shepherd" and "cowherd"), "shepherd" is by far the most common. Ondewelle (talk)