Talk:The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People

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Effective[edit]

The actual title of the book contains "effective" and not "successful". How can I change the name of the entry?

Oops. I'll take care of it. If you want to change the title in the future sign in with a username and then use the "move this page" link on the left side of the page. --karlwick

Criticism[edit]

The criticism section is pretty weak. There aren't any references provided for the criticism (e.g., "some groups"). So, it might just be anecdotal commentary overheard at a cafe somewhere or perhaps the opinion of the author? How about some substance here? --Davidp 16:22, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

This article seems to have been heavily edited by Franklin Covey PR.

Frogan 05:23, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

No book or speaker will answer all needs. They are there to trigger solutions and insights in intelligent and self-motivated people.

Proactive[edit]

I had thought that Covey's definition of "proactive" was the ability to choose your reaction to any situation or thought, as opposed to just reacting to it? I don't recall Covey ever saying that proactive means, specifically, to take responsibility for your own actions, in those very words. Not that it wouldn't mean that, anyway, but it just sort of comes off as, forgive me, right wing rhetoric while Covey has always been careful about keeping his religion and politics away from his self help career. Pro active essentially means to choose your reaction, that's all. It doesn't necessarily mean to take responsibility for your own action. After all, it's already bad enough that corporations have hijacked the word to make it mean "aggressive" and/or "productive", which the word does NOT mean.

Chase poops sparkles: "[Proactivity] means more than merely taking initiative. It means that as human beings, we are responsible for our own lives. Our behavior is a function of our decisions, not our conditions We can subordinate feelings to values. We have the initiative and the responsibility to make things happen. Look at the word responsibility - "response-ability" - the ability to choose your response. Highly proactive people recognize that responsibility. They do not blame circumstances, conditions, or conditioning for their behavior. Their behavior is a product of their own conscious choice, based on values, rather than a product of their conditions, based on feeling."--208.120.164.97 (talk) 16:12, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't see a criticism section in this article. I was just wondering what has been the effect of a person who has written a book on "highly effective people." Does writing a book that sells millions of copies justifies the adjective "highly effective"? There are literally thousands of book titles which are sold in million copies and I don't believe their authors have achieved anything worthwhile, let alone effective.

I added some additional information regarding the corporate following of this book. I am personally reading it as a requirement for a job interview, and posting is for a class assignment.4/19/15 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Llevins (talkcontribs) 19:23, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Another vote for a Criticism section[edit]

And it reads like an advert or publisher's blurb. --78.147.28.172 (talk) 11:52, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Chase is weird --Thesoupnzi (talk) 00:26, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
The opening says the book was first published in 1939, when the author would have been a child. I'm thinking the correct date is 1989, as it is in the information column. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.211.185.217 (talk) 20:34, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
How is this article even close to NPOV?! It reads like an advertisement. The guy couldn't even come up with a sensical definition of proactive, for Pete's sake!66.170.219.136 (talk) 00:38, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Article title[edit]

The official title of this book is "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People". Why is the article name "The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People"? Hypercorrection by an overzealous editor? Clayhalliwell (talk) 20:51, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

content removal[edit]

I've removed a lot of stuff from this article. It seemed over promotional and almost like a guide. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 13:20, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

I would have liked to see the 7 habits listed. --Lbeaumont (talk) 20:34, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
7 Habits [re-]RESTORED!! Again, trying to "save the INTEGRAL baby" (NOT "promo crap")! Although WP:NOTADVICE&WP:NOTMANUAL, even "highly ranked" OUTSIDE articles like Forbes.com RELY on WP's list! [1] [2] --Curious1i (talk) 17:00, 25 March 2016 (UTC)


Can WP's "own" material/edits BECOME "copyrighted" and FORCIBLY removed from WP articles??[edit]

I recently (2016-March-25; above content removal) copied (in order to "restore" it) the following FROM https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_7_Habits_of_Highly_Effective_People&oldid=704974271

(Redacted)

Soon after, it was "permanently" removed (blocked) for Copyright infringement.

It SEEMS that this info (or similar) has been a part of THIS article for most of it's existence, so much so that OUTSIDE article(s) seem to rely on it:

   "I went to Wikipedia to look up the 7 habits..." (http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericjackson/2012/07/24/the-only-thing-you-need-to-remember-about-the-seven-habits-of-highly-effective-people)

I do not wish to further antagonize(?) User:Diannaa (who seems to be a "Copyright Expert")...

THANKS for any help/pointers/links in helping with my [mis-]understanding(s)....

--Curious1i (talk) 00:51, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

  • Given that the content was removed per copyright, I have redacted it from here. -- The Voidwalker Discuss 01:11, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
  • It's copyright material, and we can't add it here, not in the article and not on the talk page. Thanks, — Diannaa (talk) 01:13, 2 May 2016 (UTC)