Talk:The Swingle Singers

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I have prepared a discography of their LPs and CDs for my own use, but would be happy to upload it, if maintainers would like to see it.

--w3steve 21:08, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Today I moved the long list of albums (and individual tracks) from the main article to the discussion page for the Swingle Singers discography article. The list seemed (to me) to be too long and a bit out of place in the "main" article now that there is an independent "discography" article for the group. I retain the text in the discography "discussion" page in case anyone disagress and thinks the individual album track listings should be restored to this main article - or placed somewhere else.
Pugetbill (talk) 00:06, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Why "(1962-1973)"?[edit]

Why "(1962-1973)"? The group seems to be still performing, according to its website (as of April 2004).

They're ghosts. -Silence 02:55, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
No they're not. They lead in acappella, just went quiet for a bit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:02, 5 May 2015 (UTC)


Why are the Swingle Singers described as a band with the word 'was'? Surely they are still around, as discussed in the caption above. I shall therefore echange the word 'was' to 'is'.


This is just a stub. The stub template should be created.

You're right. You should invent it. Good luck to you on your mission! -Silence 02:55, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

It's not them on Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid[edit]

'The group can be heard during the instrumental passages from the 1969 film Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.' - I don't think so, it's a copy of their style by Burt Bacharach, but it isn't them. Evidence; there is no mention of the film anywhere on the groups own website, which documents their career exhaustively. According to this page, it's probably Anita Kerr;

'There is good reason to suspect she also pulled another pseudonymous trick and recorded a second collection of Bacharach tunes, this time done very much in the mode of the Swingle Singers: Bacharach Baroque on Ranwood. And, although I've never been able to confirm it, I suspect it's Kerr and the gang da-ba-da-bing on the tune, "South American Getaway," from Bacharach's soundtrack to "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 17:20, 18 January 2007 (UTC).

WikiProject class rating[edit]

This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 08:14, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

The french group and the english one[edit]

Since the french Swingle Singers in 1973 disbanded and the new born english Swingle II had all different members except Ward, I'd recommend to create a new page for the original french group only: it would be more correct. -- (talk) 11:46, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

No, because the intention, spirit, method and arrangements were the same. The only thing which changed was a small variation in the tone balance because of the tonal ranges available to the new team, which soon settled to a simple step forwards from where the French team had left it. What would be useful is to ask them for a complete list of all former Swingles and the periods they worked in: you go to the LAF and the place is full of them, the rest of us keep trying to persuade them to have a swingles-down-the-ages reunion which is resisted because the past is the past and it's where they're going which is important. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:28, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Unsourced material[edit]

Article has been tagged for needing sources long-term. Feel free to reinsert the below material with appropriate references. DonIago (talk) 14:19, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Why/how did both die on the same day?[edit]

"On 1 November 2011, both Christiane Legrand and Swingles composer André Hodeir died." There's a reference that takes me to a site asking me to give my email and consent to having cookies implanted, so I can't read the referenced article, but this information should be in this article anyway. 2604:2000:F226:3200:287B:7E44:6C5:B7C4 (talk) 17:15, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

He died in the evening in Versailles.[1] She died in the 15th Arondissement, time unknown.[2] She started working with him in 1957, in a number of informal and then more formal units like Les Double Six, which in due course les to the Swingles in 1962. It's just a coincidence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:55, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

French group putatively acappella[edit]

The acapella idiom in the early 60s was predominantly Early Music, until the Swingles got their hands on it. It may be a circular argument, but the next stage of the development of the modern acappella sound did include the use of bass and drums, provided they did not become lead instruments, rather acting as baroque continuo. This then led to the beatbox backing, as singers discovered they could do more than the instruments, which now allows them to come to the front where appropriate.

My credentials in this are that I have studied beatboxing under the Swingles, and sing with the Southbank Voicelab in London, making me very close to the cutting edge in this work. My work at Alleyns in the 1960s kept the choir going which would be the vocal birthplace of Jo Goldsmith. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:17, 5 May 2015 (UTC)