Talk:Theodore Roosevelt

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Alpine mountains climbed and not[edit]

Being interested in the statement that during his second honeymoon, TR led an expedition to the summit of Mont Blanc and was inducted in the (British) Royal Society, I looked for more information, and found as follows:

second honeymoon[edit]

The only source cited (Britannica 1910) was not readily available to check. His second honeymoon was in winter, making an expedition up Mont Blanc less likely. From many sources, he avoided mention of his first wife, and avoided the places visited on the first honeymoon during the second (see below for 2nd honeymoon) From his correspondence, he didnt go near Mont Blanc on the second Honeymoon. From the Royal Society website, he is not listed in the all time membership records | RS all time membership

first honeymoon[edit]

In his autobiography he mentions "a couple of conventional trips up the Matterhorn and the Jungfrau on one occasion when i was in Switzerland" TR autobiography. Having examined his diary and correspondence, I view this as a bit of an understatement. Often walking alongside his new wife in a carriage or on horseback, he visited some major sights in the Alps, walking a number of minor peaks (Pilatus, Rigi, Gemmi Pass), walking 30km from Visp to Zermatt, and climbing the Jungfrau and Matterhorn led by the leading local guides, including Taugwalder. (Incidentally, the Jungfrau was much harder before the railway to the Jungfraujoch was made. I suspect that his route to the Berglihuette was up the Unterer Grindelwald glacier). letter comparing Jungfrau and Matterhorn , TR diary

From the diary, he climbed the Matterhorn on August 3rd/4th 1881, travelling after to Martigny 6th, arriving Chamonix by moonlight 6th, church (sermon poor) 7th, Geneva 8th, Basel 10th, which leaves no time for the summit of Mont Blanc.

I therefore feel justified in deleting the reference to Mont Blanc, and adding a description of his actual summits.

(Happy to back up in more detail if anyone objects, but it seems quite clear to me, although I'd like third party corroboration of Matterhorn and Jungfrau). Mattymmoo (talk) 22:11, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Theodore Roosevelt in Civilization 6[edit]

As of July 5, 2016, Theodore Roosevelt is confirmed to be the leader for the U.S. faction in the upcoming 4X Turn Based Strategy Game Civilization 6, I think this should be noted in the "In Popular Culture" section. [1]

  1. ^ Gameinformer Maganzine (exact issue not remembered)

1884 election error?[edit]

Is the statement "Roosevelt attended the 1884 GOP National Convention in Chicago and fought alongside the Mugwump reformers; they lost to the Stalwart faction, who nominated James G. Blaine" really accurate - Blaine was one of the Stalwart's main opponents in the Republican Party! Dunarc (talk) 20:29, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

I changed the narration. Delegates at conventions in the 19th Century were not bound to support their nominated candidates. That is how Blaine got nominated. He always was the front runner. How he got votes from Edmund's and Arthur's camps I don't know. Cmguy777 (talk) 01:28, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

old text Coal strike Main article: Coal strike of 1902 In May 1902, anthracite coal miners went on strike, threatening a national energy shortage. After threatening the coal operators with intervention by federal troops, Roosevelt won their agreement to an arbitration of the dispute by a commission, which succeeded in stopping the strike, dropping coal prices and retiring furnaces; the accord with J.P. Morgan resulted in the workers getting more pay for fewer hours, but with no union recognition.[142][143] Journalist Ray Baker quoted Roosevelt concerning his policy towards capitalists and laborers: "My action on labor should always be considered in connection with my action as regards capital, and both are reducible to my favorite formula—a square deal for every man."[144] Roosevelt was the first president to effectuate the negotiated settlement of a labor dispute.[145]

question: should it sat refiring rather than retiring furnaces? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clgjerde (talkcontribs) 03:33, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 November 2016[edit]


I would like to add more info on Roosevelts thoughts on immigration and how he is considered racsits IndiAsian (talk) 23:11, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done. Please provide reliable sources and examples of specific changes you would like to make. Thanks, GABgab 23:11, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 January 2017[edit]

The following sentence from the section COWBOY IN DAKOTA should be modified from: "As a deputy sheriff, Roosevelt pursued three outlaws who had stolen his riverboat and escaped north up the Little Missouri." to "As a deputy sheriff, Roosevelt pursued three outlaws who had stolen his boat and escaped north down the Little Missouri." The changes being from "riverboat" to "boat" and from "up the Little Missouri" to "down the Little Missouri." Sources are any publication on the life of Roosevelt, which establish that his "boat" was not a "riverboat" in any accepted form of the term; and that the pursuit north from his ranch was "down" the Little Missouri, which flows north toward the Missouri River. 66.97.227.175 (talk) 04:49, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Done DRAGON BOOSTER 13:37, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Natalism[edit]

Wouldn't it be better to simply characterize Roosevelt's opposition to "race suicide" as simple natalism? That's what it appears to be; from the article it says he viewed Americans as one race, forged on the frontier, and mostly rejected the idea of negative eugenics and the views of other social Darwinists. What Roosevelt is saying doesn't seem all that different from what some conservatives like Rick Santorum say nowadays ("we need to have more kids or our economy won't be stable anymore" or "we need to have more kids or Islam will take over the world", etc.) FiredanceThroughTheNight (talk) 04:33, 11 February 2017 (UTC)