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Holy who organized the Inquisition (ideology)[edit]

Exists dispute.

Refs were approved (long time ago) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Aquinas#Treatment_of_heretics :

"Aquinas's position on heresy and heretics provided the doctrinal basis of the Inquisition. For Jews and Muslims, Aquinas argues for toleration, not only of their persons but also of their public rites.[134]" (and Summa)

Founder of the "doctrinal basis of the Inquisition" - very & very important thing in his biography. Such important information must be & on top - in some other form. See history. Port number 10 (talk) 20:27, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

You quote from our article "Aquinas's position on heresy and heretics provided the doctrinal basis of the Inquisition". But that sentence has no supporting ref. If I look at http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/aquinas/ it doesn't even mention the inquisition William M. Connolley (talk) 20:47, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
  • If I am wrong, you can delete any mentions of the Inquisition in the article (when Thomas has relation). I will not be against. This text can be deleted, of course and including: "Aquinas's position on heresy and heretics provided the doctrinal basis of the Inquisition." Port number 10 (talk) 01:12, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
  • William M. Connolley, why did you left this instead removal ("doctrinal basis of the Inquisition")? Port number 10 (talk) 13:08, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
Because I missed it. But you've removed it, so that's OK William M. Connolley (talk) 13:11, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

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Lead needs to be changed back to its original form[edit]

From

Tommaso d'Aquino, OP (1225 – 7 March 1274), also known as Saint Thomas Aquinas (/əˈkwaɪnəs/), is a Doctor of the Church.

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Tommaso d'Aquino, OP (1225 – 7 March 1274), also known as Saint Thomas Aquinas (/əˈkwaɪnəs/), was an Italian Dominican friar and Catholic priest who was an immensely influential philosopher, theologian and jurist in the tradition of scholasticism, within which he is also known as the "Doctor Angelicus" and "Doctor Communis".

What he actually was and *did* takes precedence over a single title he was granted two centuries after his death. And come on---introducing a dead man in the present tense? How has this lasted so long? 72.200.151.15 (talk) 13:12, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 June 2016[edit]

In the 'Philosophy' section of this entry, the last two sentences regarding Thomas's use of Pseudo-Dionysius are untrue. The sources cited are not reputable, nor are they even tangentially associated with any mainstream Catholic scholarship. No authentic reading of Thomas, whether Protestant or Catholic, can conclude that Thomas was heavily influenced by "concoctions" of Pseudo-Dionysius. Factually speaking, even if Thomas was heavily influenced by the hierarchical theology of Pseudo-Dionysius, very few if any scholars maintain that Pseudo-Dionysius was more influential in his thinking than Aristotle.

Furthermore, the source Peter Paul Fuchs is actually a pen name for an anti-Catholic pseudo-scholar. He dropped out of seminary years ago and uses that credential as a platform to write reviews contrary to the conclusions of authentic scholarship. 73.24.31.9 (talk) 20:48, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.  B E C K Y S A Y L E 22:55, 13 June 2016 (UTC)


Seconded. The sentence which reads "Indeed, a number of Catholic sources contend that Thomas was influenced more by this concoction than any other source, including Aristotle.[77]" should be deleted altogether.

The "number" of "Catholic sources" is in fact *one* source, which is identified as the "Association of Masonic Arts." Not only is this a wholly polemical source (as the previous request explains), but if it is "Masonic" then *by definition* it is not a "Catholic" source.

Further, the sentence which reads "This source has arguably been assessed not as a communicator of tradition, but as a polemicist, who tried to alter Neo-Platonic tradition in a novel way for the Christian world that would make notions of complicated Divine Hierarchies more of an emphasis than notions of direct relationship with the figure of Christ as Mediator.[76]" should also be deleted.

Its source (a 2011 work by a woman named Rosemary A. Arthur) has exactly two other references easily located on the internet: another citation of the exact same passage linked to very nearly the same sentence in the Wiki article on Pseudo-Dionysius, and various links to the work itself. In other words, this thesis (that P-D was a polemicist and that he undermined the idea of Christ as mediator) is the personal opinion of a single scholar - and one who *appears* to have absolutely no other works to her name, and possibly even no academic credentials (no reference to her that I can find appends "PhD" or "Prof." or any such letters or honorifics to her name - though this is obviously not conclusive).

Moreover, this claim (even if supported) is largely irrelevant to the topic of Thomas Aquinas (especially once the subsequent sentence, suggesting that P-D was Aquinas's biggest influence, is properly excised).

NemesisDM4 (talk) 17:22, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Note: This article has not been Semi-Protected since 2 July 2016, so you can now edit the article yourself, but please ensure that any additions are properly sourced, to reliable sources and that you maintain a neutral point of view - Arjayay (talk) 17:36, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

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More Precise Inline Citations Required[edit]

Specifically for the section Modern influence, but a few others as well. This is a request for others to do the work, but also a note to myself to come back and go through the reference list to see what is usable. Noxiyu (talk) 06:33, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

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