Talk:Tigray Region

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My knowledge comes from the three years (from 1991 to 1994) I spent as personal advisor to Meles Zenawi. At that time I was also acted as the go-between for him (and his government) with the western ambassadors; especially in terms of negotiatng the $1 billion World Bank loan and dealing with the OLF forces in the restarted war.

This is all described in my book (D.Mercer, 'A Dance Through the Fires of Time' (Booksurge, 2006) due out soon. The content of this relating to Ethiopia as a whole can be found at This large website [[1]], with several thousand entries, is the source of the number of contributions I will be making to Wikipedia. None of these are promotional, and all are backed either by direct experience or by being the content of the several dozen boooks I have written - with sales of around 100,000 copies - including an encyclopedic dictionary: D. Mercer, 'Marketing - The Encyclopaedic Dictionary'(Blackwell, 1999).

I will look at a further edit of my comments on Terraforming

Futureobservatory 13:21, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

The question isn't obout your credentials. I trust you are who you say you are, but if you are a prominent person (i.e David Mercer), then Wikipedia requires some sort of proof (not anything particularly difficult). This has been the case with all celebrities, well-known and prominent people who edit on Wikipedia. The wording will have to be changed otherwise. Either way your additions have to be heavily edited to make it encyclopedic style, as it is style a bit too personal in its wording right now. I'm only hiding it for right now until the style becomes more encyclopedic, but I guess we could leave the info in its unencyclopedic style while we edit it; it's just that I'd rather the article not look half done or of varying quality.
Yom 16:23, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I guess the best evidence is my 2000 CV, to be found at [[2]] Futureobservatory 08:18, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

You're misunderstanding me. It's not the webpage I'm talking about. I'm saying that wikipedia policy requires that you, Futureobservatory, show that you are David Mercer. I guess putting something about Wikipedia on the webpage would be easiest. Maybe something involving email, but since only the person who emails you can receive the confirmation, we would ultimately have to trust that user as well.
Yom 08:58, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

I am still not certain what you would suggest I do. I have now put my (extensive) CV on my user page. If you mean that I should refer to Wikipedia on my own website I plan to do that at the top levels when I have had more experience of Wikipedia, but it would be near impossible to put this on each of the 4,400 separate files: which, for example, take 12 hours to load to the server!

- Futureobservatory
Oh, not at all on every page! I just mean one place anywhere on your website so that we know that it was you. It doesn't even have to be that. You could just tell us that you will write "Password" at the bottom of one page for instance, and if it later says password where it didn't, then we would know that it was you. That's all I'm saying. I'm sure there's some sort of easier convention for this, but I don't know it...
Yom 19:39, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

A RfC has been filed about this: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Futureobservatory. I hope it can be solved peaccfully. Flammifer 04:34, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Merger proposal[edit]

I propose that Tigray Province be merged into Tigray Region. I think that the content in the Tigray Province article can easily be explained in the context of Tigray Region. Recent expansion of Tigray Region includes the history of Tigray Province and removes the wikilink to Tigray Province. The Region article is of a reasonable size that the merging will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. It seems like these are very similar topics, but I am not a subject matter expert so maybe there is a reason to have separate articles. Groceryheist (talk) 02:02, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

I am familiar with most areas of central and northern Ethiopia. I agree that the two should be merged, with the province's history being explained in the region article's history section. I do understand the reasoning why there are two because the provinces existed until relatively recently (1996) so all of the other provinces have their own Wikipedia articles. The current regions are completely different than the provinces (even the names are different). The only province that has the same name as the current region is Tigray (i.e. there was no Amhara province but there were Gojjam, Wellega, and Wollo provinces that were highly populated with Amharas thus they became the Amhara region). Regardless, I believe that the province article should be merged, precisely because of the confusion that exists due to the shared names of Tigray region and Tigray province. Turtlewong (talk)17:12, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Tigrayan People's Liberation Front[edit]

Given that the article on Oromia Region mentions the Oromo Peoples' Democratic Organization (and includes the flag of the Oromo Liberation Front), should this page include a link to the Tigrayan People's Liberation Front? Assemblany 01:38, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Bordering areas[edit]

[[::User:Mekonnen5|Mekonnen5]] ([[::User talk:Mekonnen5|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Mekonnen5|contribs]]) and, earlier, (talk) have been changing the names of the areas that border the Tigray Region, as well as the cities therein (e.g. [3], [4]). This (apparently) reflects the former Tigray Province (as depicted in File:Un-ethiopia.png), not the Tigray Region (as shown in File:Ethiopia_regions_english.png), the latter of which is the subject of this article. The current regional states replaced the old provinces during the 1990s. I have since found a better map; "better" in the sense that it clearly shows Sudan to the west of Tigray Region, as well as the city of Humera within the region's border. It is a 2009 CIA map, and may be seen at the UT Map Collection or CIA Website. (CIA website says 2010 for some reason; lower right corner of the map itself shows 2009.) I have cited the map in the article itself, in hopes of settling this matter. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 17:41, 5 May 2011 (UTC)