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Move much of this to O'Reilly Media?
Most of these paragraphs are not about Tim as a person, but about what ORM did under his direction, and thus are more properly a history of the company. Nothing is mentioned of Tim's non-ORM life (like his biography of Frank Herbert or his pre-ORA days as a technical writer). If those aren't interesting, maybe Tim O'Reilly should simply be a #REDIRECT to ORM? --Randal L. Schwartz 03:18, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
I agree. I tried moving most of the obvious ORM material. This could still be done to minimize this article. --18.104.22.168 15:39, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
1) What was the title?
2) If "a whole chapter" was about the web, but this was "the first book about the web", then what was the rest of the book about?
- 22.214.171.124 03:55, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
I was confused by that, too. The book was about the Internet: email, archie, telnet, .... This has been moved to O'Reilly. --126.96.36.199 15:39, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Offensive use of a patent?
"In 2001, Tim became involved in a major tiff with Amazon.com, leading a protest against Amazon's one-click patent, and specifically, Amazon's offensive use of that patent against rival barnesandnoble.com." - Can anybody please clarify what is meant here by "offensive use of a patent"? This seems like an odd thing to say. - 188.8.131.52 04:09, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
"Web 2.0" trademark controversy
The page does in no way mention the Web 2.0 trademark controversy, which does not seem fair under a NPOV perspective -- it seems like T. O´Reilly himself had written the article. I understand that you moved all the related infos to the ORM page, but, IMHO, if you cite the Web 2.0 thing, you should at least briefly point out that there´s controversy around that.
Amazon vs Tim
I think this should be moved to a subsection in the page. Right now, it takes up almost 30% of the page, and this is too much. Tim wouldnt want to associate his LIFE with fighting against this patent right? ;) so why make this so long compared to the rest which should talk about Tim as a person. (I am not saying take this out, I am saying move this to become less "central" on this page than it appears right now) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 18:31, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
This seems like a very skimpy biography and tells the reader very little about Tim O'Reilly beyond where he went to school and what his philosophy is on trademarks, patents and open sourcing. Surely, more be added about his person than a link to articles he's written on his website. I'm not suggesting something invasive just basic information about the man (kids? what state does he live in? who has he collaborated with in the industry?). This is a textbook dry Wikipedia entry. 220.127.116.11 (talk) 20:08, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Tim is a far more influential individual than this article would imply. Something needs to be done to convey this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 21:42, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
- All of you are correct. This article is ridiculously short. I read Seth Godin's post. If he feels so strongly, and is an editor, he should add some content here!--FeralOink (talk) 23:34, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
Information about George Simon is wrong
This is Tim O'Reilly, subject of this article.
I don't believe I'm supposed to edit my own page, so I'm just reporting here, in hopes that someone will provide some guidance or fix the errors.
The article says that I met George Simon at Esalen. This is incorrect. I met George Simon three years earlier, in San Francisco, via my brother, who had met him at the Cultural Integration Fellowship, an institution devoted to the work of Sri Aurobindo. My brother later was in an Explorer group run by George, which focused on non-verbal communication.
I worked with George myself as a young teenager, and my brothers and I continued to correspond with him when we moved from San Francisco to the Washington DC area when I was 15. It was when I returned to San Francisco for the summer when I was 18 that George was teaching at Esalen, and I accompanied him there to lead workshops.
He did not encourage me to study Korzybski. It was a foundation of his own early work, and I became acquainted with it through him.
Oh, and while I have you, I consider the Morozov article that has been linked to here to be deceptive and inaccurate. It's a hatchet job, and anyone who respects Wikipedia's rules on the subject of Neutral Point of View should not be referencing it as if it were a legitimate piece of journalism.
- Thanks, Tim!
- I'll try to fix the inaccuracies regarding George Simon.
- The WP:NPOV guideline applies to edits rather than sources. To have a source excluded, you would need to make your case under the WP:RS guideline. ARK (talk) 16:43, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
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