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Good articleTimbaland has been listed as one of the Music good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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March 23, 2007Good article nomineeNot listed
April 29, 2008Good article nomineeListed
Current status: Good article

Needs Picture[edit]

This really really needs a picture. It wouldnt be hard tbh 86.19.148.207 (talk) 20:56, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Flickr-bot? --MrEskola (talk) 11:41, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

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I am reviewing the article, i build a list of requirements dradually, as i see them, please wait till i have finished before commenting/completing. It gets a little messy otherwise. Cheers. Realist2 ('Come Speak To Me') 10:36, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Completed items
  • Timbaland has produced hit albums and singles for a number of artists from the mid-1990s to the present day.[1]. - remove end full stop
  • That associated acts list is really long, is it a list of every person he has shook hands with lol?
  • 2008 and beyond - WTF lol?
  • "DJ Tiny Tim"[3], - grammer in wrong place
  • Mosley was born and raised in Norfolk, Virginia. - stub sentance
  • Mosley began making hip-hop backing tracks on a Casio keyboard he owned. - does it matter that he owned it?
  • Rapper Missy Elliott heard his material and, taken by Mosley’s unique sense of rhythm, immediately began working with him.[4] - neutrality?
  • At this time Jodeci was pivotal in defining the 1990s new jack swing sound, which mixed R&B and soul vocals with beats, sampling and swagger from hip-hop. - why do we need a description of Jack swing?
  • By 1995, most of Devante’s acts had broken their ties with the producer. However, perhaps fostered by the communal atmosphere of "Da Bassment" crew, Missy Elliot, Timbaland, Magoo, Playa, and Ginuwine continued to collaborate on their individual projects. - first sentance is both stuby and unsourced, the second sentance is a blatant opinion, no?
  • After the first full use of Missy Elloit continue the article just using her sir name, there are lots of variations in article.
  • Timbaland was often tapped to produce remixes - tapped? reword
  • In 1996, Ginuwine released his debut album, Ginuwine...the Bachelor, which was produced entirely by Timbaland. - source
  • The album was both a commercial and critical success, and its lead single, "Pony", was the first example of what would become the signature Timbaland sound. - source commercial part, also what is the "Timbaland sound"?, the lead gives a description of it but its unsourced. Therefore i would expect the description with RELIABLE sources the second i see it in the main body of the article.
  • That citation #7 is a dubious source, it says its a copy from the washington post, i thing the original is needed as well as more sources to back up these descriptions. Additionally, im thinking it might be wise to take it out any build an artistry section, if you want this to go to FA it might be wise. That said the description itself, if sourced correctly isnt too pov.
  • While work was being completed on Ginuwine...the Bachelor, R&B artist Aaliyah contacted Timbaland and Missy Elliott to write and produce most of her second album, One in a Million. The tracks that were crafted for Aaliyah featured innovative arrangements similar to those on Ginuwine...the Bachelor. One in a Million went on to sell over 11 million copies worldwide, and made superstars out of not only Aaliyah, but Missy Elliott and Timbaland as well.[8] - the source doesnt back up whats stated, the source says Timbaland only contributed to a few songs, there is nothing in there about it making timberland a superstar and i cant see the 11 million claim. Also the "Superstar" thing is pov
  • Missy Elliott and Timbaland became one of the most successful and prolific songwriting/production teams of the late-1990s. By the end of the decade, Timbaland’s sound had been heard in records from artists such as SWV, Destiny’s Child, Nicole Wray, Total, Jay-Z, and Nas. Most of his production work during this period was reserved for his original stable of collaborators: two Missy Elliott albums (Supa Dupa Fly and Da Real World), a second effort by Ginuwine (100% Ginuwine), and Playa’s debut album (Cheers 2 U). Timbaland produced much (if not all) of the material on many of their albums during this period, and also made two albums of his own: one with Magoo, and one solo album. Timbaland’s own raps, which were usually ghostwritten by Elliott, Magoo, or his younger brother Garland Mosley (AKA Sebastian), were almost always accompanied by other MCs, including his main collaborators and numerous guest artists.[9] - source unreliable, whole section needs sourcing adequately.
  • Timbaland spawned a plethora of imitators, some of whom went as far as to sample sections of his work to create similar-sounding tracks, and his influence on the genre has been compared to that of Brian Eno and Phil Spector by some reviewers.[10][11] - wiki link names, sources no good, first is a wierd annoying redirect thing and the other is a very random straight.com . Big claims need good sources, comparisons to specor need good sources.
  • Since Timbaland worked in both hip-hop and R&B and often combined elements of one in tracks for the other, his work aided the blending together of the two genres, which became less and less distinct during the first half of the 2000s.[13] - needs rewording, hard to understand
  • Foreign, especially Asian, instrumentation - this is not americanpedia.
  • rollicking - not going to ask
  • was also likewise a smash - npov
  • Tim - way to personal, full sir name please
  • Foreign, especially Asian, instrumentation is present through much of his early work (Xscape’s "My Secret" remix, especially, with a rollicking sitar outro and Timbaland ad-libbing "Let’s take a little trip...to India"), but was most successful and prevalent with Jay-Z’s "Big Pimpin'" (1999), which borrowed directly from the song "Khosara" by Egyptian composer Abdel Halim Hafez. Missy Elliott’s 2001 hit single, "Get Ur Freak On" from her third album, Miss E...So Addictive, was also likewise a smash, using a speedy Tabla drumline typical of Hindustani classical music. In his second album, on the track "Party People", Tim sampled a track from Zimbabwe’s Oliver Mtukudzi, skillfully imitating the illustrious strumming of Mtukudzi’s guitar. His borrowing from these cultures has resulted in mixed reactions, with many critics embracing his musical adventurousness and eclecticism and more esoteric, purist factions reacting cautiously, and sometimes negatively. In an interview with Missy Elliott in RayGun Magazine, he mentioned a diverse base of influences, from UK Drum and Bass to Garage.[14] - the one source for this section it a pop up canvas, isnt strong enough for claims made.
  • Timbaland-produced songs such as Ludacris' "Roll Out (My Business)", Jay-Z’s "Hola' Hovito", Petey Pablo’s "Raise Up", and Beck’s cover of David Bowie's "Diamond Dogs" that were recorded and released during this period, and he contributed to Limp Bizkit’s 2001 remix album, New Old Songs. - sentance way too long, im not sure it makes sense either
  • "We Need a Resolution" (featuring himself rapping a verse), "More Than a Woman", and the ballad "I Care 4 U".[15] - wiki link singles
  • perhaps owing to its release after the September 11 attacks - remove
  • Missy Elliott’s fourth and fifth LPs, Under Construction and This Is Not A Test! - wiki link if not already done in article and source
  • Remove all words like massive and huge.
  • Timbaland contributed three tracks to Tweet’s debut album, Southern Hummingbird, and produced most of Missy Elliott’s fourth and fifth LPs, Under Construction and This Is Not A Test! He also produced tracks for artists such as Lil’ Kim ("The Jump Off") and southern rapper Pastor Troy during this period. Collaborating with fellow producer Scott Storch, Timbaland also worked on a number of tracks on former *NSYNC lead singer Justin Timberlake’s solo debut, Justified, including the massive hit "Cry Me a River". The adult sound and themes of this break-up song would sever Timberlake from his teenybopper image. Timbaland also reached a new level of success, not only for the production, but for his rap and appearance in the eerie music video, where Timberlake breaks into an ex-girlfriend's house.[19] - again source needs changing, whole paragraph needs better sourcing.
  • Timbaland had seven singles receiving airplay worldwide: "Promiscuous", "Maneater", "All Good Things (Come to an End)" and "Say It Right", all by Nelly Furtado; and Justin Timberlake’s "SexyBack", "My Love" and "What Goes Around.../...Comes Around Interlude". Additionally, Timbaland also appears in most of the videos.[24] In early 2007, Timbaland was accused of plagiarism regarding his work on the Nelly Furtado track "Do It". He is alleged to have plagiarized elements without giving credit or compensation.[25][26] - firstly dont list the singles, there are just to many, just say all the singles from both Furtado and JTs albums. The plagiarism thing need expanding for neutrality of article.
  • Radio domination - pov
  • Timbaland is rumored to have future singles put out by Tweet, Monica, Chingy, and the first single off Redman’s long anticipated album Red Gone Wild. - remove
  • Timbaland declared that he had worked on seven songs - alter
  • In an interview published in August 2007, Timbaland declared that he had worked on seven songs for Björk’s new album (three of which, "Earth Intruders", "Hope" and "Innocence" will appear on the album), and in another he was later reportedly working on tracks for the new Duran Duran album, Red Carpet Massacre, including one featuring his frequent collaborator Justin Timberlake. - im sure both bjork and Duran Duran have both recently released their albums, the tenses might need changing to reflect this, also if they have been released, did or didnt he eventually collaborae? If any of it evetually never occured remove those parts. Also get all that remains sourced.
  • He produced most of the tracks and called the CD a really moving and party CD. He also made the original version of "Outta My Head (Ay Ya Ya)".[30] - first sentance poorly worded, second sentance stuby
  • Rounding out Timbaland's creative skills, he partnered with Open Labs to produce the Timbaland Special Edition MiKo keyboard work-center. At a cost of close to $3,000, it contains more than 24 gigabytes of sounds with over 25,000 presets. The proud creator announced "It’s got everything I need in a single box and when I use it, we make masterpieces"”[31] - lots of waffly words here, im not sure how important this is anyway
  • The album’s second hit, titled "The Way I Are", features Mosley labelmates Keri Hilson and D.O.E. - expand, more detail about this popular song, with sourcing.
  • In April 2007, he appeared on WWE programming in segments with several WWE Divas. Later that month, he filmed a music video for the song "Throw It On Me", starring Ashley Massaro, Kelly Kelly, Brooke, Torrie Wilson, Layla El, and Maryse.[33] Timbaland reached a new audience with his October 9 performance with Keri Hilson of "The Way I Are" on the ABC soap opera One Life To Live.[34] He produced the track "Come Around" by electronica/rap artist M.I.A.. The track appears on her second album Kala and was also included as a UK bonus track on Timbaland Presents Shock Value.[35] - very stuby, doesnt flow
  • He said that he would go after the trash talkers on his new album Shock Value.[36] - randomly tagged on at end of paragraph
  • The fued segment needs trimming, its given too much detail
  • He has contributed to Mary J. Blige's late 2007 release Growing Pains (album),[40] Beyond music, Timbaland in 2007 has been noted for his work in the fashion industry from his design of a T-shirt for the H&M brand's Fashion Against AIDS line.[41] - poor punctuation, needs rewording
  • Many upcoming productions for 2008 are slated for Timbaland, including Hard Candy by Madonna[42], - tense, the album is out now, also comma position
  • Over use of the word slated
  • The rap single "Elevator" by Flo Rida featured Timbaland in production and vocals. Other Timbaland productions for 2008 have included French singer M. Pokora's new single, "Dangerous" featuring himself and his (Timbaland's) brother Sebastian. He also plans to work with Justin Lorick on an upcoming album in 2009.[47] JoJo recently confirmed on a radio interview that she will be working with Timbaland on her third album; "All I Want Is Everything".[48] - stuby
  • Timbaland has previously worked with 50 Cent with his single Ayo Technology featuring himself and Justin Timberlake. He also worked with 50 Cent on a track from Shock Value, "Come and Get Me", which also featured fellow G-Unit member Tony Yayo.[51] - seems randomly tagged on at the end of the 2008 section
  • Intergrat personal life into career section, its wat too small to have a heading.
    • OK, im done, do these things then ill come back and take another look, i might end up adding more when i come back if needs be. Realist2 ('Come Speak To Me') 21:58, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
All done Gary King (talk) 02:52, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
God, that was quick, ill look over it in the morning, cheers. Realist2 ('Come Speak To Me') 02:57, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Im gonna switch off for the night now but before i go, current refs 5,22,23,33,34,42 and 44 need changing for this version. Please do that, ill catch up and give the final sum up tomorrow but this gives you something to do while im away. Im sure it will only take you half an hour. Realist2 ('Come Speak To Me') 04:15, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
I've changed them all except for the InformationWeek reference, because I believe that it is considered a reliable source. I believe it is a weekly magazine publication. Gary King (talk) 04:51, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
ok, im not familiar with the source but if its reliable then cool, feel free to strick this all off and stick under banner, Realist2 ('Come Speak To Me') 14:28, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Round 2[edit]

OK, i go through it now again, the mess is mostly out the way, this is just a clean up.

Completed items
  • The captain for the main picture, should it name Justin Timberlake in it if hes clearly not visible, is there some rule against that?
  • Elliott began receiving recognition as a songwriter for artists such as R&B girl group 702 and MC Lyte. Due to his connection with Elliott, Timbaland was often contacted to produce remixes of Elliot-penned songs. One of these, the remix to 702’s "Steelo" in 1996, became Timbaland’s first major production credit.[6] - elliot is repeated to many times here, although accurate it doesnt run smoothly.
  • "Get Ur Freak On" from her third album, Miss E...So Addictive, - wikilinks
  • Timbaland produced songs including Ludacris' "Roll Out (My Business)", Jay-Z's "Hola' Hovito", Petey Pablo's "Raise Up", and Beck's cover of David Bowie's "Diamond Dogs" during this period. He also contributed three songs, all eventually released as singles, to Aaliyah’s self-titled third album, the exotic lead single "We Need a Resolution" (featuring himself rapping a verse), "More Than a Woman", and the ballad "I Care 4 U".[1] - source not adequate at all, get more sources for all these claims
  • Justified - wikilink
  • Timbaland continued to produce hit singles and albums for artists; in 2004 Timbaland-produced singles by LL Cool J, Xzibit, Fatman Scoop and Jay-Z became staples on urban radio, and he produced the bulk of Brandy’s fourth album, Afrodisiac. - citations
  • Embracing an international audience, Timbaland lent a hand to three tracks off bilingual Japanese Pop star Utada Hikaru’s debut English album, Exodus. - citation
  • He returned to familiar friends to work on tracks for Tweet - alter familiar friends
  • Timbaland started a new label distributed by Interscope, Mosley Music Group, bringing some talent from his former Beat Club Records label. On the new label are Nelly Furtado, Keri Hilson, and rapper D.O.E.. Timbaland has partnership and mentorship with producer Nate "Danjahandz" Hills. - citations
  • Details on his singles from shock value need expanding, they were huge.
  • The fued is still too long
  • Ushers album has a title now. Is Timberland on it?

  • Lead needs a complete re write, it doesnt adress the content of the article.
Expanded a bit; I'm not very good at writing leads, so let me know what you think. Gary King (talk) 17:49, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
His collaborations with Furtado and JT are important, thats when people realised he was #1, also his solo Shock value needs including
DONE

Ok, this is a GA article now. Realist2 ('Come Speak To Me') 18:32, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Plagiarism controversy[edit]

Needs to be more central, as frankly it's the only thing this guy is notable for. — NRen2k5(TALK), 17:24, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't agree with you, so cite that! --Soetermans | is listening | what he'd do now? 18:12, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
You have that the wrong way around. — NRen2k5(TALK), 03:59, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Overkill[edit]

Almost every song this guy has produced is mentioned in this article. Why? He's a producer...we get it. Is there really a need to list every artist from every year? Timbo? Did you ghost write this article yourself, like a lot of other celebs have been doing? :-) 143.166.255.61 (talk) 16:55, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

As far as I know its pretty much standard Wikipedia policy to include any artist his or her work. Yeah, he made a lot of songs, but so did... uh... (took a second to find a good artist) Frank Zappa, that is one helluva long article right there! --Soetermans | is listening | what he'd do now? 18:12, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


Any work? Sure. Most significant works? Of course. All Work? Overkill, even for artists like Zappa, Prince, James Brown, Quincy Jones, etc. whose catalogs are far bigger than Timbo's. 143.166.226.64 (talk) 19:59, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

OK. I stand corrected. After reading some more wiki articles on producers and artists, this one really isn't that bad. LOL! Keep up the good work to all whom have been involved. 143.166.226.59 (talk) 12:15, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

waltz time[edit]

"My pony" seems to be in waltz time. Like Jimi Hendrix's Manic Depression. So: What's Timbaland's musical education? Is it exposure to three-four time in Florida, or is it Strauss? (Try tapping one hand to the breath sounds, and the other to the "Yeah...Yeah, Yeah." Hell, try pretending to waltz (ONE two three, ONE two three) to this song. It works. Where did that come from? -Jesse —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.61.41.38 (talk) 06:55, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I'm wrong. Any musicians out there? (I am not. Don't pick on me.) Regarding "My Pony", the emphasis in the "Yeah...Yeah, yeah" is "three" "four", "one". But I'm wrong: If the breath sounds (or hi-hat) are in eight, then the first "Yeah" is on the five. What is that? It moves... nice.

74.61.41.38 (talk)Jesse —Preceding undated comment was added at 07:14, 9 October 2008 (UTC).

Alright... I got it upside down: If you count the hi-hat "one-two-three, one-two-three", you will notice that the first "Yeah" always comes on a "one". Waltz time, yeah? Try it. It will make you laugh.

74.61.41.38 (talk)Jesse —Preceding undated comment was added at 07:22, 9 October 2008 (UTC).

No, I'm pretty sure the song is in 4/4. The hi-hat is playing quavers, or 8th notes, with the occasional jump up to semiquavers. The 'Yeah' is on beats 1, 3, 1, 1, 3 etc. \\Zzinged (talk) 05:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Middle Name[edit]

It Will Remain "Z." Until Cited Otherwise Please.

If Cited Your Edit Will Be Unchallenged.

For Information On Citation/Sourcing: See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citatations

Baby16 (talk) 18:33, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.49.45.58 (talk) 22:15, 26 November 2009 (UTC) 

Massive edit[edit]

The article as it was was in dire need of attention. It was full of peacock terms and clutter. Heck, it still is. I think the next step should be to reorganize what's left between “personal” and “professional”, and after that, to organize his work into tables or something like that. — NRen2k5(TALK), 07:24, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Christian?[edit]

I know it is not really of great importance, but it is quite probable that Timbaland is a Christian making Holy Hip Hop and wearing a crucifix, isn't it? Thanks for your answers! --Jesuit222 (talk) 23:06, 13 October 2009 (UTC) I am unable to provide a sufficiently deranged answer to match the tone of your question, so this will have to suffice: Timbaland makes completely commercial rap devoid of any dominant message, theme, or purpose.216.96.231.60 (talk) 16:34, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Missing/complete information[edit]

There is no way this should be a "good article" if there is an eight year gap in its coverage. Outside of the lead, collaborations with Ginuwine and Aaliyah are barely mentioned, there is no discussion of the early Missy Elliott. Beyond that, the article as it stands now is awkwardly structured and poorly written. --FuriousFreddy (talk) 05:58, 6 November 2009 (UTC)


Category of 1971 births, yet his birthdate says 1965 towards the top. What's up with that? 24.12.12.227 (talk) 22:27, 10 November 2009 (UTC)


Outdated information[edit]

It states: "It is reported that he will be working with Brandy Norwood, Leona Lewis, Jordin Sparks, Rihanna, Jonas Brothers, Emma Bunton, Miley Cyrus and long time collaborator Justin Timberlake on the album." The album is already out.. he didnt work with like half those people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.91.172.42 (talk) 21:59, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Timbaland[edit]

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Associated acts[edit]

He work also with The Game and with 50 Cent but more with The Game —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.182.52.134 (talk) 15:02, 6 March 2010 (UTC)


! Could someone fix this? ![edit]

It's broken from the first line! I hesitate to fix it myself because the few times I've tried to fix spelling mistakes etc. someone has come along and undone my edit without even checking what I did, thus giving me the message that I've made 'unhelpful' changes to Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.78.253.166 (talk) 00:24, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Picture[edit]

nobody have a picture of him? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.81.17.151 (talk) 11:21, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Questionable Writing[edit]

In the beginning of the article there are two problematic sentences:

"From birth he was diagnosed with a severe Tourettes Syndrome.[citation needed] Even in early life he showed very little aptitude for music, this has been said to have greatly influenced his avant-garde style in his later music career."

Is the "Even in early life...this has been said to have greatly influenced his avant-garde style in his later music career" supposed to be in jest? As if the disease actually helped him? Not sure where to start here, but his music is also definitely not avante-garde.

Also it would fit in the article if he showed A LOT of aptitude for music, not "very little" as it says in article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.126.57.164 (talk) 03:00, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Why is there no mention of his current work with Open Labs/ StageLight?[edit]

He is currently invested and working with Open Labs, yet there is no mention of this project in the article? Could this please be fixed


"Timbaland said in a statement that he has been using Open Labs’ technology for years and wanted to invest in the vision to bring “music creation to the masses.” Open Labs has signed deals with Dell, Lenovo, Microsoft, and Intel, and this round of $500,000 will help the company add more customers and continue growing StageLight. The company is based in Austin." Read more at http://venturebeat.com/2013/05/31/timbaland-yes-the-rapper-invests-in-music-startup-open-labs/#xFiYbgTU1AJMiBcb.99


He even had his own bundle with the company and there is still no mention.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/548166-REG/Open_Labs_MIKO_TIM4_MiKo_TIM4_Timbaland_37_Key_Workstation.html

He also has invested with them this year.

Timbaland continues his 2013 series of investments with a major stake in music equipment and software maker Open Labs. Known for their expensive music equipment, Open Labs is currently focused on promoting a low-cost music making app called StageLight. This year Timbaland also invested in 50 Cent's SMS Audio, a headphones and accessories brand, and in Hang W/, a mobile social video network.http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2013/06/timbaland-adds-open-labs-to-his-list-of-tech-investments.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.113.62.24 (talk) 01:19, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

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Other song[edit]

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No Personal Life section?[edit]

We know he was married for 4-5 years, has three children. Nobody wants to write the section?? Or at least put them in the InfoBox! Dfoofnik (talk) 19:20, 20 September 2017 (UTC) (Dfoofnik )

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