Talk:Timothy D. Snyder

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Interview Addition[edit]

Hello, I am an intern for the New Books Network and I am currently working on a project where I link the author's interview from the New Books Network onto his/her Wiki page (if the author or their book has one).

Timothy Snyder gave an interview on March 11, 2011 on "New Books in East European Studies" (cross-posted from "New Books in History"). If you would like to add the interview to his wiki, you can find the interview here.

He also gave an interview on October 25, 2011 on "New Books in East European Studies." That interview can be found here.

Thanks, --Kristine Daggett 19:07, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I added a link to the interview about Bloodlands to the article about that book. Iselilja (talk) 20:04, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Trimmed notable awards from info box.[edit]

Also, can we get a source for the one award there. Thank you. --Malerooster (talk) 00:37, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you User:Iselilja. --Malerooster (talk) 00:57, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Edits by JAL091[edit]

re:[1] JAL091 keeps making major edits; while some seem useful, he also keeps removing useful content including infoboxes and references. As such, I am reverting those changes, with no prejudice if that editor or someone else actually mergers his edits.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:57, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Reads like a resumé[edit]

Article on this very distinguished living person not very encyclopedic in tone. Lacks information such as where person was born, and so on, that a reader might want to know. Some of that, at least, is freely available. Why keep it secret? (talk) 18:10, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

In case anyone wants to insert the info. See below:
Timothy Snyder is the Bird White Housum Professor of History at Yale University, specializing in the history of central and eastern Europe. Born in 1969 in southwestern Ohio and a graduate of Centerville High School . ..Short Bio attached to Professor Snyder's CIV at Yale
Shore-snyder|The Morning Call, February 13, 2005
Marci Shore and Timothy Snyder will be married in June 2005 in Cracow, Poland. The bride is the daughter of Dr. Stephen Shore and Mrs. Sharon Collins, and the granddaughter of Mr. Leonard and Mrs. Lillian Glickman of Allentown. The groom is the son of Dr. E. Eugene and Mrs. Christine Snyder of Dayton, Ohio. The bride, a graduate of William Allen High School, completed her doctorate at Stanford University; the groom at Oxford in England. Both are historians. They currently reside in Vienna, Austria.
Marriage announcement in Lehigh Valley Morning Call, February 13, 2005 — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:39, 2 March 2014 (UTC)


If an institute with a German name like the "Institut für die Wissenschaften vom Menschen" in Vienna also announces the official English version, it is useful to chose in the English wikipedia the English translation, i.e. here Institute for Human Sciences. I made that change in the article.--Stonepillar (talk) 20:17, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

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Grover Furr edit[edit]

Hi, I edited the Timothy D. Snyder page to include a mention of Grover Furr who wrote an exhaustive response to Bloodlands. In under 2 hours User:Alex Bakharev added a link to the term "revisionist" to describe Grover Furr. I have since deleted the adjective, which is a very loaded and poorly defined word to just slip in. I fear an edit war so I am bringing this to the talk page. Grover Furr's book definitely meets the standards for Wikipedia citation so I am not sure what personal opinions have to do with a mention of this major, thorough criticism of Timothy Snyder's work. Any response from User:Alex Bakharev or other users would be welcome. (talk) 02:09, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi, to follow up, User:Volunteer_Marek listed Grover Furr's book as WP:FRINGE. Dr. Furr is a respected academic whose book Blood Lies is incredibly well-cited. It cannot be dismissed as a "fringe" theory without citation. Any response from User:Volunteer_Marek or other users is again welcome. (talk) 02:59, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

It only takes a cursory look at Grover Furr's article to realize that this is a WP:FRINGE author. From Stalinist apologia to denial of the Katyn killings. In fact I take it you're the same user who was active on the Katy Massacre article [2], trying to do the same thing there. So, no, there is no reason to include this one particular fringe author here.Volunteer Marek (talk) 03:13, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
If you have not looked at the book, you have no basis to dismiss it as "fringe." It does not make unverifiable claims and is very thoroughly cited. You would have to find a source that can DEMONSTRATE that Grover Furr is "fringe." Not just because he disagrees with your view of history. I have looked far and wide for actual refutation of Furr's work, which is quite easy to find when dealing with conspiracy theories - NOBODY has posted a single error in Furr's book, in its contents or methodology, ANYWHERE ONLINE. And I have never made another edit to another wikipedia page, thank you. (talk) 03:36, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
Again, there's plenty in Grover Furr's article to suggest he's fringe. This has also been covered on the article on Katyn Massacre. Here is one source. And here. It's also of note that Furr is not a historian. Anyway, this is a BLP so this stuff stays out.Volunteer Marek (talk) 04:54, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
Furr is an English literature expert. He doesn't have any methodology when he writes about the Soviet Union. Xx236 (talk) 11:50, 29 February 2016 (UTC) Xx236 (talk) 11:54, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
Neither of your linked articles do what you purport: show EVIDENCE that Grover Furr has made any errors in his book. Furr clearly spells out his methodology in Blood Lies in a lengthy introduction. Your line of reasoning now has me ask: if someone found out that Grover Furr deliberately distorted evidence, wouldn't that belong in HIS "BLP?" I think you would want that in his biography, just as it should sit in Snyder's. (talk) 13:16, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
Grover Furr is a literature professor who writes pro-Stalinist stuff in his free time. He is neither a historian nor are his works published in peer-reviewed historical journals. Thus, his claims about history or historians' works - the claims of a non-historian, published in works that are not peer-reviewed by historians ("Blood Lies" is published by Red Star Publishers)- not meet the criteria of a reliable source.Faustian (talk) 13:52, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
I'm sorry, why do you get to decide who is a "historian" and "non-historian?" And actually, "The “Official” Version of the Katyn Massacre Disproven?" was published in Socialism and Democracy Volume 27, Issue 2, 2013 pp96-129, that is a respected journal covering modern history. Thanks! (talk) 14:17, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
I don't decide who is or isn't a historian. Grover Fur does not have a degree in history, nor does he work as a historian in any academic setting. Thus, he is not a historian. We are discussing "Blood Lies", which is what you are trying to insert into this article against consensus. It was not published in a peer-reviewed journal.Faustian (talk) 19:44, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
It's your task to prove that Furr is a Soviet history expert. You defend your thesis about Soviet historz in Russia or Historz faculty, not in Chemistry or Filology.Xx236 (talk) 13:40, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
Check out his website and decide for yourself: He certainly speaks a lot of languages and has extensive citation in all his work! (talk) 14:18, 29 February 2016 (UTC)


The Bloodlands have been criticised by some Holocaust writers. Snyder has published the Black Earth (which is worse than the Bloodlands).Xx236 (talk) 11:58, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

"Criticism" section[edit]

Isn't this sentence ridiculous?

"Several writers criticise Bloodlands, and Black Earth." (talk) 04:18, 14 February 2017 (UTC)