Talk:Timothy Hunter

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Similarities to Harry Potter[edit]

Many people have noticed similarities between Timothy Hunter — a bespectacled English teenager with family troubles who has a magical owl as a pet — and the later and more famous Harry Potter of J.K. Rowling's novels. Gaiman has been quoted as saying[citation needed] that any similarities between the two are largely superficial and most likely reflect the fact that both draw on common archetypes.

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See: http://www.holycow.com/dreaming/archives/arc2-1998.html - and the entry for March 19, 1998 for Neil's discussion of the similarity between Harry and Tim.

157.128.83.162 03:02, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For the same cite needed, see also http://www.januarymagazine.com/profiles/gaiman.html Claudia 18:09, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would remove the sentence "Most significantly, the original miniseries was published long before the Harry Potter books, the first of which was published in 1997." for this reason: JK Rowling originally got the idea for Harry Potter in 1990, the year Tim Hunter first appeared in print. I agree with Gaiman that similarities are largely superficial, yet the fact Tim Hunter may well have been an influence at least. I have no knowledge of Rowling denying it. My point is that saying "most significantly" and "long before" is not relevant because of the date coincidence. --84.100.17.73 21:57, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Illustrations[edit]

Comparison of the characters as written aside, I thought there had been mention of the similarity in illustration from the cover of the first Harry Potter book. I don't know where it would be, but I thought something was written up about it at the time. On the face of it, the article does a good write up about plaigerism of the character as written/general description, particularly Gaiman's response, but similarity of the illustrations is an entirely different matter. IMHO (talk) 20:53, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can't say it's something I've ever seen discussed, but surely if you've got two teenaged boys with dark hair and glasses their pictures are going to look quite similar. If we've got sources, it could be mentioned as an aside but I don't think the article needs any suggestion that the one character is based on the other in any way: there's just no evidence for it. JonStrines (talk) 09:18, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Appearance in Hellblazer: Staring at the Wall[edit]

Ok, I would be confused. A character called Tim Hunter appears in this collection, and refers to himself as 'The Merlin'. I assumed that this guy is the same character, but in the Hellblazer comic, he appears to die. I sort of have a *huge* question mark about this. Can any sort this out for me? Ninjoc 10:04, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I remember this. He was only supposed to be knocked unconscious. Try www.insanerantings.com/hell/index1.html, I -think- that is where I found the info. That webpage's layout confuses me most terribly. Lots42 08:42, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He doesn't die he's just possessed by the Thing That Adam Didn't Name like the rest of the human race barring John and a few friends. RecentlyAnon 21:35, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion[edit]

I just read every Book of Magic series ever published. Does anyone have a problem with a major expansion of the fictional history. Cause damn, there is nothing there. RecentlyAnon 23:55, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Go for it. PLEASE. Lots42 05:49, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've expanded the character history as much as I can: I don't have copies of Hunter: The Age of Magic so I can't say what happened to Tim past Names of Magic. Anyone care to help? JonStrines (talk) 12:33, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 02:22, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Scars[edit]

I've reverted an edit to add back in a statement that Tim Hunter has a scarred forehead: he doesn't, and none of the articles discussing the similarities that are cited make this mistake either. The similarity is just down to the age, the magic and the owl. JonStrines (talk) 08:42, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tag at Fictional character biography[edit]

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