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Requested move 12 September 2015[edit]

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The result of the move request was: MOVED due to consensus. Tiggerjay (talk) Tiggerjay (talk) 18:38, 19 September 2015 (UTC) (non-admin closure)


Tom Watson (politician)Tom Watson (Labour politician) – Incomplete disambiguation. Thomas_Watson#Politicians lists 6 other politicians called "Tom Watson" or "Thomas Watson". The name Thomas is so commonly abbreviated to Tom that we can't assume a distinction between the two. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:34, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

  • Alternative proposal Move him to plain "Tom Watson" and the existing page to "Tom Watson (disambiguation)". As he is now deputy leader of the British Labour party, an important post, I suggest he is now the primary meaning. The others do not look particularly notable. PatGallacher (talk) 12:11, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
    • @PatGallacher: I considered that possibility, but it seems to me that the Labour Deputy Leader falls way short of being the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC.
      1. A WP:PRIMARYTOPIC needs to be more significant than all other instances combined. With so many others listed, that's a high hurdle
      2. Most people called Thomas are frequently abbreviated to Tom, so the primariness needs to be considered against Tom and Thomas.
      3. Even if we consider only the articles titled Tom, Tom Watson (golfer) has been an internationally-notable sportsman for decades. Hs page has got 90K hits in the last 90days, but the Labour politician has got only 53K hits in 90 days. Maybe the politician's hits will rise, but its worth noting that the outgoing deputy leader (and acting leader for the last 4 months) has got only 62K hits in the last 90 days. Watson as a deputy will have a lower profile than an acting leader, so I see so no reason to expect him to be more sought after than Harman.
    • This may change in the future, but for now the Labour Deputy Leader clearly fails primary both on hits and on long-term significance (cos he he's only been in the job a few days). --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:28, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Support per nom. Not a primary topic, and ambiguous disambiguation fails WP:PRECISE -- 70.51.202.113 (talk) 07:17, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
  • OK, withdraw my proposal, also forgot about Thomas E. Watson, a fairly important figure. Support move to "Labour politician". PatGallacher (talk) 15:14, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

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Requested move 13 September 2015[edit]

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The result of the move request was: procedural close, duplicate discussion NE Ent 22:46, 13 September 2015 (UTC) NE Ent 22:46, 13 September 2015 (UTC)


{{requested move/dated|multiple=yes |current1=Tom Watson (politician)|new1=Tom Watson|current2=Tom Watson|new2=Tom Watson (disambiguation)|}}

– As he is now deputy leader of the British Labour party, an important post, I suggest he is now the primary meaning. The others do not look particularly notable. PatGallacher (talk) 00:07, 13 September 2015 (UTC)


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Leon Brittan[edit]

Mr Watson's campaign of false charges of child abuse and rape against the late Leon Britton (a campaign directed against the man as he was dying of cancer) should also be mentioned in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:B5DA:7B00:21A1:879D:4DA3:98B8 (talk) 08:21, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

It should also be mentioned in the article that Tom Watson's pro censorship campaigns (against Mr Murdoch and other people) were partly funded by Max Mosely the son of the British Fascist leader Sir Oswald Mosely. The late Leon Britton was, of course, Jewish.2A02:C7D:B5DA:7B00:21A1:879D:4DA3:98B8 (talk) 08:26, 8 October 2015 (UTC)