Talk:Toni Wolff

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--Dary - who dies suddenly AND unexpectedly after YEARS of HEAVY smoking — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:05, 20 May 2015 (UTC)


A couple of quotes need citations added, which I've tagged. I also removed the phrase about Wolff no longer being a friend of Jung's at her death, since this isn't supported by anything I've read (though admittedly I may not have read enough yet). If it is indeed the case, it too needs a cite. Thanks --fraise (talk) 07:47, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I've added some notes, bibliographical references and, thanks to Google Video, the excellent "Matter of Heart" that confirms much of what is here. Anyone who knows of other bibliographical refs, please do add! There's plenty in French, but less so in English, it unfortunately would seem... I wish there were more available about Wolff. --fraise 17:58, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

I've added some details about Toni Wolff's accompishment, which include being Jung's analyst (uncredited at the time but widely acknowledged today) and collaborator in developing some of the foundational concepts of analytic psychology. I also tried to fill out her biography section and separate it from her relationship with Jung. I did all this from Deirdre Bair's biography of Jung, but will look for some additional sources on Wolff -- it'd be nice to add a bit more about what distinguished her work as an analyst. I remember reading somewhere that she was considered by her peers to be a highly skilled analyst.Grebe39 (talk) 15:10, 1 April 2011 (UTC)


Related to the need for references and cites, I removed this speculation today:

It should be noted that when he heard that Toni had passed away, it is said that Jung had her papers destroyed. Whether this is true or not will never be confirmed. The question remains as to why he would do such a thing. Did he wish to deny Toni the recognition for her own groundbreaking work, most especially along the lines of her formulation of the feminine psyche? Why was this line of analysis not followed through on until just recently? Her work may have held much more than what we have seen in the little that was published. Or was much of her writing taken for his own and this is why so little was available to be published.

"It is said" by whom? In any case, if it can never be confirmed, it has no place in a factual article. --fraise (talk) 12:32, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


As to the lack of notability of this page (as expressed by the Notability tag), I'd like to say that having been a patient, a lover of Carl Jung, and later a therapist herself, and having published non-trivial papers in psychology, Toni Wolff certainly deserves a page on Wikipedia.

I agree that she certainly does deserve a place in Wikipedia (as does Aniela Jaffe, by the way).
However, most of the text has been copied and pasted from a different source (cf. [1]) - which has not been acknowledged.
As an update for readers of this discussion: while the above unsigned comment was true in the past, the article has since been rewritten and sources added. --fraise (talk) 12:32, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Partial source[edit]

Jacobisq (talk) 08:57, 18 May 2014 (UTC)