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Comments[edit]

I removed the external links section because all the links were invalid. I attempted to find their new URLs, but was unsuccessful.

== External links ==
*Past and present designs of reverse side
*Past and present technical specifications
*Past and present mintages

--The Computer Mutt 05:53, May 30, 2005 (UTC)

The Mint's new website doesn't make links like this possible anymore, it seems... Radagast 14:03, August 3, 2005 (UTC)
Here is a link, but I am not sure how to format it or cite the Schedule in the Royal Mint Act which specifies coin characteristics. [1] Riwillia (talk) 07:44, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Patent[edit]

I removed the section stating

"Canada adopted the patented technology to make these coins from Italy. The engineer, and head of the Italian Mint, Dr. Nicola Ielpo, patented the technology of interlocking two metals in coins in 1990.[1]"

because 1) the reference is to a patent, not to a source stating that Nicola Ielpo's technique was adopted by the RCM; 2) the Royal Canadian Mint has its own bi-metallic coin patent http://www.wikipatents.com/US-Patent-6044541/method-of-making-bimetallic-coins-or-blanks and 3) the Royal Canadian Mint website states that the coin "is manufactured using a distinctive bi-metallic coin locking mechanism patented by the Royal Canadian Mint" (see http://www.mint.ca/store/mint/learn/2-dollars-5300016 ). Unless evidence it provided to contradict it, the article should state that the coin's manufacture uses a technique patented by the RCM. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.34.39.128 (talk) 13:51, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Popping out the centres?[edit]

Should there be a section about how, when the toonie was new, kids would chuck them at brick walls to pop the centre sections out?

Done, essentially. Radagast 14:03, August 3, 2005 (UTC)
"As a result the Royal Canadian Mint initally offered a small reward for damanged coins."
I don't recall this at all. A separated toonie could be returned at any bank (with both pieces) for face value, but there was no reward offered. I'll rewrite it to note that. Radagast 01:46, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

Good!

Other slang terms[edit]

I didn't want to include it in the main article, but thought it should be mentioned: Because there is an image of the Queen on one side and a (polar) bear on the other side, some people referred to the coin as "The queen with the bear (bare) behind." - RealGrouchy 17:27, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Popping out the centres?[edit]

"Many Toonies in the first shipment of the coins were defective, and could separate if struck hard or frozen, as the centre piece would shrink more than the outside. This problem was quickly corrected, and the initial wave of "Toonie popping" blew over a few months after the coin's introduction."

The popping out of the middle was an urban legend, though it may have happened to one person, "a Hamilton woman", according to the CBC. It's true that kids were chucking the coins at brick walls (I know I did), but the coins never actually did fall apart, and were not proved to be defective. We (my Dad, brother, and friends and I) certainly tried everything we could think of, including freezing, heating, and pounding on the coins, but to no avail. Eventually someone did publish a method by which the centre could be removed, but the result was anticlimatic and I'm pretty sure there was no design change to prevent this particular abuse. The toonie-breaking craze died down in a couple months, not due to a design change, but because Canadians got bored and realized that it was stupid (and yes, technically illegal) to destroy perfectly good money. Here is the URL to a CBC article which, in passing, mentions the popping out of the centre part of the toonie: http://archives.cbc.ca/IDC-1-73-1769-12064-20/that_was_then/politics_economy/twt Joctrel 02:38, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

I know lots of people who still enjoy trying to get out the centres. And yes, they did do a design change. The original toonies were "defective". I don't see how us "Canadians" got bored with it. Honestly, the arguement doesn't make much sense. Disinclination 03:06, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Removed false information[edit]

The infobox on the right said that the toonie had been minted from 2003-present. Since it was introduced in 1996, this would involve time travel. I removed this, so the infobox is broken now, but that's a problem for whoever screwed it up in the first place. I do not know whether the actual minting began in 1996 or earlier. silsor 00:34, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

How belligerent of you. --Doradus 13:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

fixed the minting date.[edit]

All you have to do now is change the actual date part, if I'm incorrect with the minting dates. Don't delete the line! :) - CanuckGod

Queen Elizabeth II[edit]

"... like all other Canadian coins, has a portrait of Queen Elizabeth II."

This is, of course, a minor point but not all Canadian coins have the queen's head on them, specifically those minted before 1952. They're not easy to come by but I managed to spot a few in circulation when I was over there a few years ago (yes, this millenium). Jimp 03:47, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

The coins minted prior to 1952 did not have the Queen on them because she was not the Queen at that time. Her father was the reigning Monarch. Since then all Canadian coins have featured the Queen.
And hence, why the article says that. :) Disinclination 03:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Hidden Image[edit]

I have known this since 1996 in grade school and I thought it should be added here. File:Trextoonie.jpg

  • can a admin look at this and see if it should be on the artical.

Aeonz 20:57, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Mistakenly called twonie?[edit]

We currently say that toonie is "sometimes mistakenly spelled twonie"? Do we have a reference stating that "toonie" is the preferred spelling? "Twonie" seems equally valid to me, given that this word was recently invented, and derives from the words "two" and "loonie". --Doradus 12:58, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Removed the word "mistakenly". --Doradus 21:49, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

New Twoonie[edit]

There's a new bear picture on the twoonie for 2007. No mention of it on the page. --131.104.254.224 22:10, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Any other 2-dollar coins?[edit]

Is this the only 2-dollar coin in the world, (er, in the world of countries that use the word "dollar" to describe their currency)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.20.219.41 (talk) 19:24, 22 September 2007 (UTC) The Cook Islands have a two dollar coin (in the shape of a triangle actually) as well as Barbados, Australia, Hong Kong, and Zimbabwe. Some of them are obsolete or have been demonetized, but there's probably others as well. Sorry, it's nothing special. XIDE 10:19, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Different from what?[edit]

"It is the only coin in Canada to have the 'ELIZABETH II / D.G. REGINA' in a different typeface..."

Different from what? --  timc  talk   04:16, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Twonie spelled Twonie[edit]

Have any of you ever wondered why the "Toonie" is spelled as it is? I will tell you. It is a play on words between Two (the value, in dollars, of the coin) and the Loonie (the nick-name for the one dollar coin). Then why, may you ask, is it consistently spelled without a W? That is an excellent question. Too often does our society accept mediocrity in situations just as this. When looking at the word "Twonie", many would pronounce it phonetically, with the W making a sound. Instead of correcting this, people have decided to simply compromise and spell it so it is easier to pronounce the first time. Is this dumbing down our children or what? Are they to stupid to not understand this simple pun? Must we compromise? My answer is no. We, the few and proud who edit Wikipedia, have an obligation to the public to not accept these forced compromises. We must, starting right here in this page, spell Twonie the way it was supposed to - with the W intact. This may seem trivial to some, but I this is a cause I believe in steadfastly. Our Canadian language is being subverted by the American language and our appeasement to phonetical spelling and I, for one, want it to stop now. Who is with me! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jordan8800 (talkcontribs) 02:40, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I do hope you're joking. The "w" is completely useless. I'm Canadian, and I have never come across anyone who says toonie contains, or should contain, a "w". The reason it is spelt "Toonie" is because, as we all know, it's a combination between "two" and "loonie," but from "two" only the "t" is taken, with the "oonie" obviously taken from "loonie." If the two coins were spelt as "loonie" and "twonie" the entire point of the term "toonie" essentially being two loonies is lost. This has nothing to do with "the American language," it is common Canadian spelling for the Canadian two dollar coin. Kohkoa (talk) 22:39, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
I quite like the Twoonie spelling used by a poster above. I'm going to start spelling it that way. 96.45.196.227 (talk) 17:32, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Hmmm, a google search shows about the same number of hits for "twooney", "twoonie", and "twoney" (about 12 thousand). Since this article contains "twoney", I'm going to add "twoonie" as well. ("Toonie" has 158 thousand, and "tooney" has 71 thousand.) 96.45.196.227 (talk) 17:36, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Official spelling of "toonie" is not an issue[edit]

"Toonie" is the only official spelling of the 2-dollar coin. -- Balance and composition – the 2-dollar coin -- This means that in the lede of this article that should be the only spelling. An alternate "popular" spelling, not the official one, is mentioned in the "Naming" section of the article. Whatever people want to use in their own personal correspondence is fine, but in this article, the only correct spelling is "toonie". Enough has been said about this on this Talk Page, and the matter has been already resolved as you can see above.

I reverted a recent edit that tried to change the official spelling in the lede, for the simple reason that this is an encyclopedia, which requires that the first spelling people see (and the predominant one for the record) is "toonie". A commentator above said it well when he stated, "I do hope you're joking -[about the spelling "twonie"]-. The "w" is completely useless. I'm Canadian, and I have never come across anyone who says toonie contains, or should contain, a "w"." Thank you, Kohkoa (talk). --Skol fir (talk) 18:05, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

moving to Toonie[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

The rationale for moving the article from Canadian 2 dollar coin to Toonie is:

  1. Wikipedia:Article titles#Common_names
  2. For example, newspapers reporting the upcoming change in composition from nickel to steel all call it the "toonie" (eg, [2] [3]
  3. This usage (and this spelling) is also acknowledged by the Royal Canadian Mint at http://www.mint.ca/store/mint/learn/2-dollars-5300016
  4. The article for the loonie was already at Loonie

-- P.T. Aufrette (talk) 20:07, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Why wasn't this controversial move discussed ? UrbanNerd (talk) 15:02, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

The above discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was no consensus. --BDD (talk) 20:27, 27 October 2012 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

ToonieCanadian 2 dollar coin – Page was moved and renamed Toonie without warning or discussion. Toonie is a nickname and isn't even the proper spelling, as there are several other variant spellings of the nickname. Twoonie, Twonie, Twooney, Twoney, etc. The page should be moved back to its proper name with its nicknames referenced in the lead. UrbanNerd (talk) 15:11, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

This article should be merged with Canadian dollar, IMHO. GoodDay (talk) 15:40, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
  • I agree that the nickname isn't a good name for the article, but I think "Canadian two-dollar coin" is more consistent with Canada's other currency denominations. I very much disagree with merging the articles. PKT(alk) 16:07, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
  • My comments are at Talk:Loonie#Requested move. This ought to have been a consolidated move discussion. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 17:38, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Oppose this is about the toonie, not other Canadian two-dollar coins. There have been several 2-dollar coins in the history of Canada. It should not be merged with Canadian dollar, because this is about a particular series of coins, which have a bimetal form, and usually have a Polar bear on it, though also has had other designs. Since this is about a particular series of coins, and not the 2-dollar-coin in general, it should not be called Canadian two-dollar coin. WP:UCN, the common name is "toonie", which is even used by business reporters and reliable source financial media. -- 65.92.181.190 (talk) 19:47, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
If there have been other two-dollar coins, they should be mentioned/discussed in the article once it's moved to a better name. PKT(alk) 13:27, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
We have Sacagawea dollar and Susan B. Anthony dollar which are separate articles from the US one-dollar denomination coin article Dollar coin (United States) so, the US articles have them a separate topics. We should similarly have Canadian two-dollar coins and particular two dollar coins as separate articles. -- 65.92.181.190 (talk) 04:37, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Support - only a domestic nickname Moxy (talk) 20:55, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Support - A nickname not used outside of Canada. Proper named should be used. UrbanNerd (talk) 23:01, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
    You're conflating the "two-dollar coin" (a coin with a face value of two dollars) with the particular series of coins described in this article (a series of bimetal coins denominated as two dollars usually with a polar bear on it introduced in 1996), which are two different subjects. Further WP:TIES, the name with ties to the subject (ie. the Canadian name) is used. -- 65.92.181.190 (talk) 04:31, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Oppose, the toonie is not a nickname, it is the only commonly used name of the coin. 117Avenue (talk) 01:04, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Support per UrbanNerd. Steam5 (talk) 04:44, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Strong Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME, per the fact that it is the name most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources. Canuck89 (converse with me) 06:06, October 22, 2012 (UTC)
  • Oppose we already have a guideline for this. Its called WP:COMMONNAME. It is never called the two-dollar coin, its always the Twoonie. And redirects take care of anyone who isn't aware of the common name. -DJSasso (talk) 12:09, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

New security measures - 2012[edit]

Unless Canada withdraws the older coins and makes them worthless, whats to stop someone from counterfeiting the old version?2605:E000:AA1F:E400:68C9:409C:99D:83B1 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:49, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

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