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History[edit]

I'm going to remove the "History" section of the article in a moment, because it is

  1. quite horrifically malformed, formatting-and-layout-wise
  2. a blatant rip-off from the site listed as an external link

Any objections? --Paul A 04:25, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)


[moved from User:Paul A:]

  1. My apologies
    please tidy it up. Not all of us are experts :-)
  2. as this is my site I am quite entitled to 'rip it off'

I would like the history 'rip off' returned As you were kind enough to remove it perhaps you woulld be kind enough to return and format it so I can look at the code

Thanks for your interest :-)

ProjeX 06:52, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[end moved]


Sorry about that: both about being grumpy about the formatting, and about assuming the worst about the source of the timeline. It would have been helpful if you had, when you added the History section, left a message on this talk page mentioning that it was from your own site - something to bear in mind in future?
I will have a shot at formatting the History section, but there are some bits there that I really can't make out what it's meant to say. Please excuse any blunders.
--Paul A 02:50, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
(P.S. - In future, please don't leave messages on my User page - or anybody else's User page for that matter; that's not what they're for.)

Wandsworth Common railway[edit]

I added wandsworth common station to the list and placed it at the top, because it is in fact nearer to the center of Tooting than any of the other stations. I am certain that is accurate, since i get off at that station to get to college. :)

I will be removing Wandsworth Common Station as it is over a kilometre away from Tooting Broadway Station as the crow flies, and is in fact closer to Balham Station. As Balham has its own article showing Balham and Wandsworth Common as its two principle Railway stations, i dont think it needs inclusion under Tooting. Deckchair 08:36, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I see Wandsworth Common station has re-appeared without any discussion. I believe that it should be removed for the reasons stated above. If the user who reinstated this station has a good reason for its inclusion then please say so. Deckchair 11:41, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Wandsworth Common station is surely closer to Tooting Bec than it is to Balham? Snottysnail (talk) 01:16, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Please stop "Labour Party" marketing[edit]

I am somewhat sceptical of your motives for putting links to Sadiq Khan's blog and the Labour Party site on the Tooting wiki page.

Wikipedia is an open-source project and not a free-for-all marketing or SEO tool.

I have a business in Tooting and could easily abuse wikipedia for marketing purposes; however, it would be antisocial to do so.

Consider the consequences for your reputation should you persist. People such as myself who were initially sceptical of Sadiq have seen him cope relatively well in the media and are prepared to be won over. Don't ruin this by getting involved in mindless vandalism!

When editing a page, you should consider whether the information you are presenting is for the public good, or for promotion of your own organisation.

By all means, keep the part in the main text that mentions that Sadiq is the MP for Tooting. It is relevant. But please remove the external links to Sadiq's page and the Labour page, and put them on the appropriate wiki pages for Sadiq Khan. Not on the Tooting page. It is not directly relevant.

Addendum: even though there is now a link to Stephanie Dearden (liberal democrat) page, which balances it a little, this is still all a little irrelevant and so still needs an NPOV marker

Until we find a satisfactory way to link to political pages etc from this page, or else include all active political parties, it will be biased.

Brendanurbanwarrior 28 June 2005 15:51 (UTC)

I've just noticed that there is a proper political page here, so perhaps it's better to hang all the political stuff off there and simply link to that page. So I am proposing that the Tooting page be solely about Tooting, the town, and the constituency page be solely about the constituency (i.e. what used to be called "Wandsworth Central" or whatever). The two pages can link to each other of course.

Brendanurbanwarrior 28 June 2005 21:41 (UTC)

Political links now in Tooting constituency page[edit]

In the spirit of fairness, I have put the political links in the Tooting (UK Parliament constituency) page.

Brendanurbanwarrior 4 July 2005 17:32 (UTC)

Wandsworth Common station[edit]

I've just changed the order of railway stations to reflect better Wandsworth Common station's relationship to Tooting. I don't consider it nearer or more significant than Tooting and Balham railway stations in its relationship to Tooting, so dropped it to third. I was born and brought up in Upper Tooting and am well aware of all the stations mentioned.

Is Tooting Bec Lido the largest in Europe?[edit]

According to Wandsworth Council, it is [1]

I'm happy if someone can prove to the contrary, then to change it back to just Britain. Then I will tell the council. cheers

Brendanurbanwarrior 07:31, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

I'm not even sure that it is the largest in Britain - Penwith Council claim that the main pool of the Jubilee Pool at Penzance "has an area of approximately 2875 square metres and holds 1,106,665 gallons of seawater". http://www.penwith.gov.uk/media/adobe/e/f/jubileepool-flier_1.pdf

By my reckoning, Tooting is 90.9x30.3 metres = 2754.27 square metres.

--Lang rabbie 17:11, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

But Tooting Lido is 90*33m ([2])

Brendanurbanwarrior 18:13, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

As far as I know, the Lido was constructed (in real money) as 100 yards by 100 feet (33 yards, 1 foot). http://www.slsc.org.uk/Lido-History.htm

Apologies, I'm not sure where I got my earlier metres figure from, which I suspect had rounded down to 33 yards x 99 yards. Applying a standard calculation of 1 yard=0.9144metres on the correct imperial dimensions gives 91.44 metres x 30.48 metres and a total area of 2787.09 square metres.

A recent Amateur Swimming Association press release for the open water championshops described Tooting "as the UK’s largest, unheated, fresh water, open-air pool" --Lang rabbie 19:16, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Food and Retail[edit]

I see no point in a Encyclopedia listing a number of Curry house and bars - this is an Encyclopedia not the Yellow pages --User:Gruff 11:35 10 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree that the "eateries" section just seems wrong with the statement "Tooting features many world class restaurants" I will be removing this. While i enjoy some of the restaurants in Tooting, i dont think any of them come up to world class standard Deckchair 10:15, 17 September 2007 (UTC)


Events in 2007[edit]

Do two assaults outside Tooting Broadway Underground station really merit inclusion in the list of notable events in Tooting's history? As someone must have added this relatively recently, I won't delete just yet so that I can be shown the error of my ways. Bencherlite 17:19, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I dont believe the assaults should be included. If we were to include every assault that ever happened in Tooting then it would be a very long list. While assault is serious i dont believe it is worth including as a notable event in the history of Tooting. Deckchair 13:43, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. Removed. Bencherlite 21:12, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Notable residents[edit]

I do not think the following are particularly notable and therefore should be removed from this list.

Christopher "Toots" Vivion, Kenny Day, Huw Jordan. Any objections? Deckchair 11:11, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I see that the list of "notables" has increased again. Looking on google doesnt shed any light on why these people are notable and there are no articles for them Deckchair 10:57, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree, and have trimmed the list down again. There was no explanation given when they were added, and appear to be NN. --OnoremDil 11:10, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Really not sure that Michael Angelis counts as being from Tooting - He may have lived there, but he's undeniably from Liverpool. If being a resident is sufficient qualification, then that would let in actor Patrick Stewart, who has a house on St James Drive Snottysnail (talk) 02:35, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Sport[edit]

The reference to 'boxing... taking off in Tooting' strikes me as advertising. I'm not sure I would put the availability of lessons at the leisure centre as evidence that anything is taking off. Was the opening of Cafe Nero evidence of a sudden surge in the popularity of coffee in the area?

Any objections to this being deleted?Gaffertape (talk) 21:00, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Not from me. A ref in a national newspaper, or a notable local boxer might help change my mind! Cheers Kbthompson (talk) 13:33, 30 December 2007 (UTC)