Talk:Torsion siege engine

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Removed mangonel as an example of torsion engine[edit]

The mangonel doesn't seem to represent a single type of catapult, but varies in shape and function from source to source (see "Non-Gunpowder Artillery; Manongel". Xenophon group. 28 May 2004. Retrieved 2009-01-13.). For example, some sources see the mangonel as a trebuchet while other sources sees it as a torsion engine. A quick Google Image Search however, seem (it has to be considered that Google image search does not only find professional works) to show that the majority of today’s sources see the mangonel as a synonym to the onager (see "Mangonel images". Google Inc. Retrieved 2009-01-13.). --Kri (talk) 14:56, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

extremely graphic descriptions[edit]

uhhhhh that last section contains some pretty extreme graphic descriptions, idk if all that's really necessary 2600:6C47:A03F:C443:C140:B77B:5543:C590 (talk) 21:25, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What is a TRACTION thrower?[edit]

This is infuriating. In three articles ("Mangonel", "Torsion siege engine" and "Torsion mangonel myth") to find out what it means when someone says "That's not a torsion thrower. That's a TRACTION thrower". I also TRIED to go to "Traction siege engine") but that just goes to "Mangonel". I don't enjoy being teased and played with by someone who is VERY CAREFULLY avoiding ANY description of what a Traction thrower IS and how it works. We're only told what it ISN'T and that it works by "traction" and not "torsion", but what does that even mean? It explains nothing. The extent of my donations to Wikipedia is this: I tell you when you are abysmal, for free, as in the present instance, and that is ALL I WILL EVER donate until you clean up your act! If you want to say that some TRACTION thrower differs from a TORSION thrower, you must explain what EACH OF THEM ARE! What is it, like a military secret or something? You'll go to prison if you breathe a word of it?2600:1700:6759:B000:1C64:8308:33BC:E2D6 (talk) 09:22, 9 December 2023 (UTC)Christopher Lawrence Simpson[reply]