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Singing on the River[edit]

It may not have been a traditional annual event, but singing madrigals from a raft of punts on the Cam in the summer definitely happened during my time (1969-75). It was not a 1980s innovation as stated. Mhkay (talk) 20:30, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

This reply is probably long overdue, but according to http://musicb3.wordpress.com/2011/06/09/draw-on-sweet-night-singing-on-the-river/ (not necessarily a reliable source), it might have been performed by the Cambridge University Chamber Choir at that time. cmɢʟee୯ ͡° ̮د ͡° ੭ 19:53, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
The performance is on the last Sunday of the Easter Term, I believe, but then one has to explain when the Easter Term, as the jargon is unconventional :-) . It could well have been in the 1980s that the event started in the current form; certainly it has not always been performed by the Trinity Choir. My recollection was that previously it was performed by the University Madrigal Society, and then it might have been on King's Backs rather than Trinity. A Google search has led to the rather informative http://janus.lib.cam.ac.uk/db/node.xsp?id=EAD%2FGBR%2F0265%2FSOC.XXII (see the 1938–1963 item), which makes it clear that (a) that was the choir that sang on the river originally, and (b) it was, as I also recalled (I arrived on the scene in 1957), originally performed at King's. I'll update the page. --Brian Josephson (talk) 16:31, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Chair Leg and Bicycle Pump[edit]

The chair leg which was swapped with a bicycle pump in 1982. The college immediately replaced the bicycle pump with a new chair leg. In 1985, the original chair leg was auctioned for charity in Rag week and bought by the President of the Union Society and given back to the college and is now back in King Henry's hand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.69.194.231 (talk) 23:08, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Largest College?[edit]

Can someone explain (or correct) the logic of the first paragraph? It seems to say that Trinitiy is the largest college. Except that Homerton is. Scaramouche (talk) 18:38, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Various points seem to be relevant here, one being that Homerton did not become a full college till 2010, according to the wiki page, so Trinity has been the largest college until recently. Also in terms of undergraduate numbers Trinity is probably still the largest. --Brian Josephson (talk) 19:44, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

College motto[edit]

The information re the college motto has recently been changed to say it is Semper Eadem, with reference to an article by John Lonsdale, http://alumni.trin.cam.ac.uk/document.doc?id=22 as source. Later, however, Lonsdale said (http://alumni.trin.cam.ac.uk/document.doc?id=62) that this is not the motto. I have checked with him and he has confirmed that the motto originally in the article is the correct one. I will therefore revert the motto, and also include a link for it to another source. --Brian Josephson (talk)

I've just realised that I have an invitation from the Vice-Master that has the college shield on it, underneath which is a wiggly blue line with 'Virtus Vera Nobilitas' written almost invisibly on it. That surely is conclusive proof of which the motto is, even if the image cannot be found anywhere on the internet as far I have been able to discover. --Brian Josephson (talk) 19:26, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi Brian! Do you mean http://armorial.library.utoronto.ca/stamps/TRI001_s1 ?
These publications from Trinity College suggest "Semper Eadem" as the motto:
"But to be true to our motto, Semper Eadem, which could rather loosely be construed as ‘Always the Best’, we shall have to become accustomed to change." [1]
"The Master’s favourite mistranslation of what many suppose to be the College’s motto, Semper Eadem, but which in fact we owe to the Good Queen, Anne, is ‘Some change is good; no change is better.’" [2] (emphasis mine)
By the way, Singing on the River happens this Sunday, in case you are interested. Cheers, cmɢʟeeτaʟκ 11:42, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

John Lonsdale has admitted that he got it wrong, as I said. Anything that has the college shield on has the same motto as in your utoronto link and there can be no doubt that the 'virtus' version that features in the current WP page is the correct one. However, in the Hall you will see Semper Eadem next to the portrait of Henry VIII at http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/paintings/henry-viii-14911547-founder-of-trinity-college-cambridge-134698, and this may have been the cause of the misconception. --Brian Josephson (talk) 13:47, 5 June 2015 (UTC)