Talk:U.S. Route 101 in California

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Watershed navigation bars[edit]

An editor has questioned whether navigation bars would be appropriate for all of the dozens of California watersheds highway 101 passes through. I suggest that might be excessive, although there are three California watersheds uniquely associated with highway 101. Highway 101 follows these rivers closely through their California coast range valleys connecting the riverside communities to the outside world. Each of these three river watersheds contains more than 10% of the highway 101 mileage in California, and no other federal highways enter any of these watersheds. Thewellman (talk) 06:36, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

These criteria are very arbitrary. This seems to be more of a desire to cherrypick various favorite watersheds, and the assertion of the connection borders on original research. I also question whether these navboxes should even exist. There are only 27 in Category:United States river navigational boxes and most of those are for much larger watersheds or for those of entire states. --Rschen7754 07:15, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
I agree that it seems arbitrary. Are these watersheds signed on the highway? Where I'm from it's exceedingly rare to see any watershed signs along roads. –Fredddie 11:45, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
  • The Russian River watershed is signed. I'm not sure about the other two, which represent greater highway lengths; although the northern Russian River boundary is the southern Eel River boundary. I anticipate opportunities to field check later this month. Watershed boundaries are of significant interest in California because of agricultural, economic, and environmental consequences of water transfer from one watershed to another. Larger watersheds are of increased interest because of the greater acreage and volumes of water involved. I'm not sure the 10% figure is an appropriate threshold, but I mentioned it to illustrate the significance of these three watersheds in comparison to the dozens of others. As a matter of interest to those who travel highway 101, The Eel River watershed is an area of water surplus with towering groves of trees, while the Salinas River watershed is an area of water scarcity with dead trees lining drier portions of the river channel. Thewellman (talk) 12:58, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
    "Watershed boundaries are of significant interest in California because of agricultural, economic, and environmental consequences of water transfer from one watershed to another" -> As a Californian, I have seen more watershed signs in other states than in California. I would significantly disagree with this statement. --Rschen7754 18:28, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
    As a resident of California, I realize northern Californians (who live in watersheds with unallocated water rights) and southern Californians (who need more water) may significantly disagree about the significance of watershed boundaries. Thewellman (talk) 19:03, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
    If you need local context to appreciate it, then it's probably not relevant for a global encyclopedia. --Rschen7754 00:15, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
  • The question is not whether watersheds are relevant to include in highway articles. The question is whether watershed navboxes are relevant to include in highway articles. I unequivocally say the answer to the second question is no. Highways are not rivers.  V 01:58, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
    • I agree. Mention the watersheds in prose, but remove the navboxes from the bottom of the article. Imzadi 1979  02:20, 15 June 2017 (UTC)