Talk:USS Mississippi (1841)

Military history: Maritime / North America / United States / American Civil War

This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history articles

This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: criterion not met Coverage and accuracy: criterion not met Structure: criterion met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion met

Associated task forces:
/
	Maritime warfare task force
	North American military history task force
	United States military history task force
	American Civil War task force

Ships

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ships, a project to improve all Ship-related articles. If you would like to help improve this and other articles, please join the project, or contribute to the project discussion. All interested editors are welcome. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.ShipsWikipedia:WikiProject ShipsTemplate:WikiProject ShipsShips articles

Pennsylvania Mid‑importance

	Pennsylvania portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Pennsylvania, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Pennsylvania on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PennsylvaniaWikipedia:WikiProject PennsylvaniaTemplate:WikiProject PennsylvaniaPennsylvania articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Shipwrecks Mid‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Shipwrecks, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of shipwreck-related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ShipwrecksWikipedia:WikiProject ShipwrecksTemplate:WikiProject ShipwrecksShipwreck articles

Mid

This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Shipwreck-related priority open tasks:

To Do

Lady Elizabeth (1879)
- Clean up typos Currently working on it-----Completed!
- Improve grammar
- Add any additions if needed Still adding more information
- Discuss desired additions -None

Perry and Japan[edit]

"Commodore Perry proceeded, in one of the most difficult, skillful, and significant naval/diplomatic missions ever recorded, to negotiate a trade treaty with the Japanese, hitherto absolutely opposed to opening their country to Western trade and influence."

I am not sure this is entirely accurate; it was a treaty negotiated with the Japanese looking down the barrels of quite a few guns. I would like to see a citation for this. Cripipper 13:50, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Same problem with the sentence. It was an act of war, an aggression, not a diplomatic affair. You don't send 4 military ships, you don't use the threat of your firearms for a diplomatic mission. Add to this that it was not a negotiation, as Perry stated immediately that discussions would be made on his own terms only !

Moreover, the Japanese were not "absolutely opposed" to the opening of the country. There was actually a growing discontent among the japanese population about the seclusion of the country, a mood that was mainly crushed by the american aggression. It would be good to have a more critical, les partisan view of this section.

25 April 2012

What is Mississippi's slogan?

— In the section Perry and Japan, the first paragraph about the Mississippi service in the Mediterranean it appears that the ship was refloated (26 August 1851) before it ran aground (28 August 1851) off Smyrna. The next sentence regarding the Perry Japan mission may be more appropriate in a new paragraph. Digitalflack (talk) 15:46, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]