Talk:United Counties of Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry

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County v. three counties[edit]

This page has soooo much wrong with it. The United Counties of Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry are not 'a' county they are three counties. They are united into one upper tier municipal government. Cornwall is within Stormont County but is not part of the United Counties. There are many things factually incorrect in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:38, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

There is a difference between Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry and the United Counties of Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry. The latter is an upper tier municipality - a government - while the former are three different counties; but the two are not the same thing. Let me illustrate as follows. Stormont is a county. Within Stormont is the City of Cornwall. So it is fair to say that within the three counties of Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry you will find the City of Cornwall, because Cornwall is in one of those counties - Stormont County. However, the City of Cornwall is NOT in the United Counties of Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry. In fairness to this article, it is a common misunderstanding, even at the government level. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:34, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Someone started the changes, I didn't look to see who, and I continued with them once that happened. I'm sure there will be some more tidying up of these changes, but the information is now reliable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:26, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Population numbers[edit]

Population numbers still wrong. See Talk section of this article: — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:14, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Actually, lots still wrong because of how awkwardly it is written. It is incorrect to refer to this area as "the county". It's one upper tier government, that's true. It's also one census division. But there are three counties. I looked at the deed to my cottage which I recently purchased and it does indeed refer to the County it is in, not the upper tier government of the United Counties of SD&G. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:18, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Population numbers have been fixed. Lead and portion of History section revised. Demographics section significantly updated accordingly. I'm not going to weigh in on the debate about what a "deed" says as the deed template may have never been updated to reflect the amalgamation of the three counties. I also am reluctant to agree in full that it is incorrect to refer to this area as a "county". The municipality's own website currently states at the top of its landing page "Note that the County Administration Office will be closed..." and its contact page states "Please use the following directory to connect to SDG County staff...". It is reasonable to assume from this that the municipality views itself as one county that comprises three united (or former) counties. Thus, I would suggest not fretting about this. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 21:10, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

The new branding for SD&G is "The Counties". Note the plural. And whether they use plural or not, there still are three counties. The deed template is Provincial, by the way, not local to each county. Then the correct county must be used or it CANNOT be registered. So if there were no Glengarry County or Stormont County or Dundas County they could never be registered - but they are registered because these counties exist. I've seen dozens of deeds in this area and I've NEVER seen one that listed the county as Stormont, Dundas, & Glengarry because no such county exists in Ontario. I presume lawyers and realtors in the area have seen hundreds or thousands and I bet they would concur. Such a deed could never be registered, which is why you don't see it. Besides, this article is still awkwardly written. It bounces back and forth between the idea of a census area and an upper tier government. It should be written as either one or the other. The population number in the box in the upper right is an example. It gives the census area population. But under demographics the upper tier government population is used. I know I'm being a bit critical, and I will acknowledge there has been some improvement on this by Wikipedia over the years. But this isn't the only area. Look up a list of census areas in Canada on Wikipedia and then click on Hamilton, for example, and it will take you to a page about the city of Hamilton even though the listed item was the census metropolitan area of Hamilton. As these articles grew they grew as both descriptions of census areas and municipal governments, even though the two are distinct (though similar). Most of them are now this weird hybrid of two distinct entities. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:42, 16 December 2015 (UTC)