Talk:United States Army

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CSA comments[edit]

On a ligitimate note, the recruitment practices of the CSA in no way impact the record of the US Army, being that the CSA was an unlawful assembly and never recognized as anything but a popular rebellion by the US government. I'd cite someone but its so obvious and self evident that I dont think its necessary. That being said, in the absence of the decision of a recognized court or tribunal, any critism of the US Army would be a matter of opinion, and not the subject of an encyclopedic entry. Perhaps there could be a seperate article containing criticisms. . . but factualy i'm not sure what it would consist of. Barring the actions of a few individuls the record of the US Army is exemplary of restrain and fair play as applied to warfare, even and often at its own expense. If the alledged events at Abu Ghraib had been US Army policy then criticism would be duly called for. Being that it was punishable behavior under the UCMJ and not knowingly condoned I'd cite it as an exception to the rule. If every army were to be criticised for the excesses or dailances of its individual members no such body could ever been seen as ligitimate. I've yet to see though any serious charge of genocide, or execution of prisoners, or willful targeting of civilians leveled against the US Army as a body, rather only against isolated (and few) members of its whole. To say that the criminal behavior of a few equals a ligitimate argument against the whole is absurd. Imagine calling all people in a country murderers because some people in that country have murdered. In light of the VC death squads, the purges of Stalin, the holocaust of the Nazis, or of Pol Pot, the genocide of the Kurds under Hussien in Iraq, or even the tacit allowance of drug smuggling by the army of Panama under Noriega. . . to mount any serious criticism of the US Army one would almost have to turn 180 degrees and attack the fact that it sometimes sacrafices its own numbers to avoid undue civilian causalties, or the destruction of infrastructure. These acts are contrary to the goals and welfare of an army. It is perhaps also unique in the history of armies. If you want to see criticism of the US Army on this page, my suggestion is to locate evidence of something which is deserving of criticising the body as a whole. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antirevisionisthistorian (talkcontribs) 06:48, July 4, 2011‎ (UTC)

I reverted the edit regarding CINCAF[edit]

Because Mr. Trump is not yet legally Commander in Chief. This can easily be added on the 21st or 22nd, but currently is incorrect. L3X1 (talk) 16:59, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Your response was priceless. Face-smile.svg Hannibal Smith ❯❯❯ 17:15, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

General Order 2017-07[edit]

An IP cited a non-existent General Order 2017-17. I found citation http://www.apd.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/pdf/web/go17-07_Web_Final.pdf . We will need to update some articles. In the meantime I will comment-out 2nd Army. --Ancheta Wis   (talk | contribs) 11:52, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

POV[edit]

It's POV to accept at face value the US Army's position that it was in Western Europe to defend it. No doubt the Soviets used a similar justification. We shouldn't. Alfie Gandon (talk) 21:24, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Actually, it was US Army Doctrine up to the fall of the Soviet Union. Now that the world has changed, TRADOC has shifted as well, in the current Army Operating Concept, which is quite a bit more flexible. The Youtube clip chronicles this. Minute 9-10 was for the Cold War. --Ancheta Wis   (talk | contribs) 21:57, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
Not Wikipedia's doctrine. Alfie Gandon (talk) 22:35, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
What reliable published sources do you have for it being otherwise? - BilCat (talk) 22:58, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
I don't need them. There's no onus on us to accept the word of either side in the Cold War. Alfie Gandon (talk) 23:49, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
That would depend on exactly what wording you're objecting to, and what you want it changed to. - BilCat (talk) 00:04, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
The current wording mentions only defence. While I accept defence was part of the reason for the US and Soviet military presences, it wasn't the only one. I changed 'concerns over the defense of Western Europe' to 'concerns over a potential conflict in Western Europe' and 'in anticipation of a possible Soviet attack' to 'in anticipation of a possible conflict'. Alfie Gandon (talk) 21:57, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
The current wording is in the context of what the US Army stated were its reasons for being there. What reliable published sources state that defense was not the only reason? You can't just change cited content because you think it's biased or wrong, even if it's from a primary source. - BilCat (talk) 22:13, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

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"As the largest and most senior branch of the U.S. military,..."[edit]

"As the largest and most senior branch of the U.S. military,..." There is no citation to support the claim that the Army is senior to the other branches, thus I have removed this. This now reads "As the largest and oldest branch of the U.S. military,...: If someone is able to properly cite this then feel free to revert my edit. Simmons123456 (talk) 18:21, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Reference citation added and edit reverted.CobraDragoon (talk) 22:08, 7 July 2017 (UTC)