Talk:United States Declaration of Independence

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
Good article United States Declaration of Independence has been listed as one of the Social sciences and society good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Archive
Archives
  1. Jul 2005 – Nov 2005
  2. Nov 2005 – Nov 2006
  3. Mar 2007 – May 2008
  4. May 2008 – Dec 2008
  5. Feb 2009 – Dec 2010
  6. Jan 2011 –

Additional External Link[edit]

I would like to add an external link to the version of this declaration before it was edited, as originally written by Thomas Jefferson. An example of this can be found at http://www.history.org/almanack/resources/jeffersondeclaration.cfm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.96.205.81 (talkcontribs) 11:31, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Declaration of Independence was not forgotten[edit]

I must challenge the assertion that the Declaration of independence was as quoted by Maier on page 162 ( American Scripture) cite in your article. Maier stated "seldom if ever, to judge from newspaper accounts and histories of the celebrations was the Declaration of independence ever read publicly in the late 1770s and 1780s." There is no evidence offered to support this and in fact the DOI was read on July 4th from 1776 onward and usually read also before sermons delivered in gathering places after 1776.

I would also point out that many newspapers were shut down by the British in the colonies during the war years war years of 1775-1783 and could not be reported. Oftentimes, the reports of sermons were sent to newspapers in many states to be included as a news event but nothing in the newspaper reporting standard of 18th century equal today's newspaper reporting practices.

No facts are offered to support such a sweeping judgment and really needs to be reviewed. Unfortunately, the belief that the DOI was forgotten has been included in other histories of the time and needs to be corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Novanglus2015 (talkcontribs) 10:41, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

"states" replaced by "Colonies:"[edit]

Hello, it seems like there may be a mistake in one of the usurpations on the Annotated text of the engrossed Declaration--the word "states" should be replaced with the word "Colonies:" The line in question currently reads, "For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these states," but instead should read, "For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:"

Thank you. [1]

Monture834plaisant (talk) 18:06, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done As far as I can tell, the requester is correct. I searched the phrasing and found it elsewhere. If I'm mistaken, please revert me. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 00:08, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

References

John Locke's Philosophy in the Declaration[edit]

Although this article mentions the belief John Locke influenced the Declaration, this idea is quickly refuted without being supported by textual evidence from 'Two Treatises of Government'. Locke's text read, as mentioned,with many similarities to the Declaration of Independence. His ideas widely influenced America's political platform through the ideas of inalienable rights- a Lockean belief- established in the Declaration, which later led American founders to limit the power of political rulers through separation of powers, a key idea in American constitutionalism. In order to enhance the reader's knowledge of possible Lockean influences within the Declaration, I would like to request the adding of the following information to page five: Locke’s ‘Two Treatises of Government’ explored the idea of inalienable rights, defining these rights as life, liberty, and property. Jefferson later adopted these as life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The entire purpose of government, according to Locke was to protect these rights. Locke believed in the social value of the individual, a belief that led his sentiments away from divine rights and towards the importance of consent of the governed (Locke §124). Believing not in the placement of a monarch as the complete embodiment of a country (rather, he believed in the embodiment being in the sentiments of its people), Locke also believed in the importance of maintaining a secular government, to keep worship out of political practices. In order to deepen the equality between average citizen and political elite, executing Locke’s belief in inalienable rights, Americans founded a government upon constitutionalism- the creation of a government with laws to limit the power of politicians. The limit of politicians’ power removes the risk of government members having rights different than those of the average citizen- therefore, making men closer to equals. This importance is key in the Declaration of Independence- a section in which Locke's influence was clearly represented through Jefferson's pen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rsut5241 (talkcontribs) 02:10, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi. This aside, nice write-up. Maybe you can become more involved in Wikipedia editing, it would be a benefit to the project and the areas of the encyclopedia you chose to edit in. One of us, one of us. Thanks. And on topic, George Mason influenced Jefferson greatly as well, and Locke may have influenced Mason. Randy Kryn 15:49, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. clpo13(talk) 23:29, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Spelling of "Brittish"[edit]

I had always heard that one of the times that the word "British" is used in the Declaration it is mis-spelled with two "T"s. However there is no reference to that in the article. Is this simply an urban myth? --Legis (talk - contribs) 22:48, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Low Countries[edit]

"The United States Declaration of Independence inspired many other similar documents in other countries in the 18th and 19th centuries, spreading to the Low Countries, and then to the Caribbean, Spanish America, the Balkans, West Africa, and Central Europe in the decades up to 1848"

The same article mentions that the "Low Countries" (Netherlands and Belgium) already had their own declaration in 1581 (Act of Abjuration)... So it rather spread from there to America then the other way around.

I suggest removing "to the Low Countries, and then" from the sentence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.84.10.25 (talk) 15:46, 27 May 2016 (UTC)