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Reviewed version: May 17, 2008.

Full english name[edit]

Shouldn't there be a hyphen between Ruprecht and Karl in the full english name (i. e. "Ruprecht-Karl University of Heidelberg") as "Ruprecht Karl" is not the name of one person but rather the first names of two monarchs that in their respective times founded the university (Rupert I, Elector Palatine – "Ruprecht" – and Charles Frederick, Grand Duke of Baden – "Karl"). --88.66.53.95 (talk) 01:54, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you're right, but it seems there exists some sort of convention regarding German university names on WP, as basically all the universities that include their founders' names in their official brands don't use hyphens in English (eg Munich, Freiburg, Göttingen, etc, which are all named after two monarchs). Also, I don't know if a hyphen is appropriate to indicate that Rupert and Charles were different persons; it could also indicate a double first name. You know, like Karl-Heinz University... ;) Fred Plotz (talk) 13:42, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

PLEASE[edit]

PLEASE DOES THE UNIVERSITY OF HEIDELBERG TEACHES IN ENGLISH? AND CAN ONE TAKE TRANSFER FROM ANY EUROPIAN MEDICAL UNIVERSITY TO THE SCHOOL? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.44.56.244 (talk) 00:51, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

As far as I know, the medical school does not offer any courses in English language for the first professional degree in clinical medicine. Transfer to the medical school is possible through the ECTS system, but there must be passed a language test for German. However, it is certainly possible to enter the medical school's doctoral programs after having completed the professional degree in any European country. Doctoral courses are offered in English and the thesis can be completed in English as well. Regards Fred Plotz (talk) 21:02, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Nazi era[edit]

"The university faculty and students helped built, in conjunction with the Reichsarbeitsdienst, the Thingstätte Nazi amphitheater on the northern hill called Heiligenberg, as well as the WWI memorial Ehrenfriedhof south-west of the Königstuhl mountain ." That's really too detailed information for this article.:Fred Plotz|talk]]) 22:36, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

University of Heidelberg wasn't third university in the Holy Roman Empire[edit]

In the first paragraph there is stated "Founded in 1386, it is the oldest university in Germany and was the third university established in the Holy Roman Empire." That is not entirely true because (to my knowledge) first university in the Holy Roman Empire was University of Bologna (1088 - first in western Europe), second was Charles University of Prague (1348), third was University of Vienna (1365) and then, as fourth, was University of Heidelberg (1386). You probably didn't count Charles University of Prague as the Kingdom of Bohemia was de-facto independent part of the Holy Roman Empire.

62.245.64.124 (talk) 19:20, 1 January 2010 (UTC) Martin Tichý

Thanks for the hint! Changed content according to your suggestion. 147.142.204.253 (talk) 11:27, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Goebbels[edit]

Neither graduates who became federal ministers of post-war Germany, nor other third reich ministers (e.g. minister of the interior Frick) are named in the main article, so there's no reason to pay Goebbels this particular compliment. He's mentioned in the List of University of Heidelberg people, as are all other people of his governmental rank.147.142.204.253 (talk) 12:00, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

hello! wanted to seek some guidance. I am a Medical Doctor (M.B.B.S) residing in Germany. I can speak English fluently,but learning german language.i want to persue my career in Dermatolgy,but not sure how to get in to it keeping in view this german language barrier that i have to face in patient- doctor relationship! please let me know if there is any way i can join derma residency programme? and if later i have to shif frm germany to anyother European state then can i get a transfer to some other medical university as well? thnks.. waiting for ur reply. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.167.127.249 (talk) 10:34, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Gourman Report[edit]

As for the continuing inserting and immediate deletion of the results of the latest 1997 gourman report, I think it's okay citing it in the context of the findings of all the other university rankings. First, all university rankings are subject to controversy in view of methodology; its not the task of an encyclopedia to evaluate widely cited reports. Second, it's irrelevant that the latest edition is 13 years old if the publishers find its results still valid, which is indicated by the fact that there's no later edition; the footnote clearly states the date of publishing so that any reader can draw his own conclusions on its validity. Third, most indicators of university rankings are of a rather long-range nature, so that annually changing ranking positions are more suspect than stable positions over a longer period of time. And finally, a couple of wiki articles on notable institutions (such as Notre Dame, Tulane, U of Illinois at Urbana) have been citing the gourman report for years without any editor taking umbrage at that fact, so we can assume a broad consensus on the citability of the report among wiki editors. Fred Plotz (talk) 11:26, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

I apologize. I did not see this discussion in deleting (again) the insertion of this reference. I disagree that the material is appropriate for inclusion. Setting aside criticisms of the thing (which in my mind substantially undermine its reliability in the first place), it is old news. Thirteen years old. That may be but the blink of an eye in the long history of some of the older schools, but it is really a leap of faith to assume that a ranking that old has any current utility, or any pertinence except perhaps as an historical footnote. School administrations change. Funding sources dry up (or huge new ones are found). Faculty comes and faculty goes. In a decade and a half (almost!), one school may decline in quality - or the ones surrounding it in the rankings may improve. Indeed it is hard to imagine that such changes do *not* take place. While I concede that year-to-year rankings, particularly ones that reflect large annual variations, are pretty questionable, that criticism does not logically imply anything like the converse - namely, that a particular year's ranking taken from the decade before last has any validity left in it, just because it happens to have been the last one published. (I would note that Gourman appeared to publish new rankings every year, not every decade or so, so his methodology was presumably subject to the same fluctuations.) Finally, it's a real stretch to suggest that his 1997 rankings must still be valid for the reason he hasn't published any since. It's just as likely to suggest that he (or Princeton Review or whomever) found there wasn't enough money to be made in the endeavor, and simply gave up. It is, after all, not in print any more. (And *really* lastly - I think it would come as a big surprise to most readers of these articles that the Gourman rankings stuck right in beside the 2010 US News rankings, or Princeton Review, or what-all-else, dated to 1997. In that regard - and before I saw this discussion - I've undertaken to remove the Gourman rankings from the articles in which it appears, with my reasoning in my edit summary. If the consensus is that these dusty old ratings are worth anything, they'll soon be restored by other editors.) JohnInDC (talk) 17:45, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
I've thrown the issue out for broader discussion here. JohnInDC (talk) 18:08, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Should we make a separate article for the History[edit]

I'm in the process of ensuring a good sourcing of the article in general and the history section in particular. The article currently includes large portions of the Catholic encyclopedia article. In some case, these passage focus on religious issues whilst other facts are missing. That means the history section should get even longer. As the article is already very long, I think it would make sense to make an article History of Heidelberg University. What do you think? How to proceed? --Anneyh (talk) 20:48, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi Anneyh! I'd appreciate a separate article on the university's history. Nevertheless, I don't think that the current section in the main article should be considerably shortened. Covering over 620 years of history just demands some space. 147.142.204.253 (talk) 10:34, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
My plan is to copy the current text in a new article, expand the history and then summarize it back here. The history section in the main article will probably stay about the same length, but the balance between some points may change a little bit. --Anneyh (talk) 11:16, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Well, let's see what you can do :D Fred Plotz (talk) 20:34, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
For tonight, not much, just the copy paste.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anneyh (talkcontribs) 20:59, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:32, 8 July 2011 (UTC)



University of HeidelbergHeidelberg University – The university consistently calls itself Heidelberg University on its English language web pages. Other German universities call themselves University of X on their pages but Heidelberg University does not. Silvestre Zabala (talk) 13:13, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Support: Agree with given motivation. -- SchreyP (messages) 07:54, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Support per nom. Arsenikk (talk) 22:58, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
  • support I'm a Ohio resident and I've never heard anyone call it University of Heidelberg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pwojdacz (talkcontribs) 05:29, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
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Name change from "University of Heidelberg" to "Heidelberg University"[edit]

May somebody with move rights please rename the rest of the subpages from "University of Heidelberg" to "Heidelberg University"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.206.27.128 (talk) 16:26, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

No student body fees between 1977 and 2013[edit]

I saw an error in the "financial" part of the text. There it said that the tuition would have included student union fees. Well, it didn`t since official student unions were banned in the state of Baden-Wuerttemberg from 1977 until 2013. I studied in Heidelberg and took part in re-intrducing them, so I am pretty sure. But if you need proof, here from the University Homepage: http://www.uni-heidelberg.de/einrichtungen/studium/vs/ It should be corrected now.

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Why isn't Goebbels in the list of alumni[edit]

He got his PhD here. Steeletrap (talk) 22:12, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

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