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Vaccine controversy section[edit]

This new thread in the article strikes me as recentism and is unlikely in my opinion to pass the 10 year test. As it stands, the text just recapitulates news and does not add in a durably meaningful way to the core article. Medmyco (talk) 17:27, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Agreed, it should go. Dbrodbeck (talk) 17:58, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
I re-read the section and yes, I agree that it should go. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 03:05, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Unless there are further significant developments this is indeed too small and recent to be included in an encyclopedia article. ElKevbo (talk) 06:06, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
When it was added the editor who added it mentioned in his/her edit summary that it was being put there to match the one at the article on Queens University. There is indeed one there and I think it ought not to be there either. I will start a discussion over there. Dbrodbeck (talk) 15:57, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
That would be good. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:08, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
One of the soruces I cited said that the anti-vaccination course was part of a larger problem that included a homeopathy study and a new mandate for alternative medicine research. And I'm sure the concerned medical students will still be talking about this two years from now since that is the next time when the course might be taught. The other thing to remember is that everything was once recentism. Should the fact that people have short attention spans these days reduce articles to being time capsules of the 90s? I'll admit that writing a whole paragraph was excessive but I think the UT Scarborough or faculty pages should have a sentence about this. Universities appear to be an exception but articles for most organizations have sections for collecting minor controversies. Connor Behan (talk) 02:44, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
I think we need to take a step back and consider if, in the history of U of T, does this even matter. Dbrodbeck (talk) 02:47, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Speaking as a U of T faculty member in the School of Public Health, I'm scandalized by this major gap and lack of oversight, but wearing my Wikipedian hat, I don't think it belongs in the article, and I think the similar discussion should be als be removed from the Queens article. Medmyco (talk) 17:31, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
How much it matters (for an article about U of T, not just its history) depends on how much of a foothold antivaxers are able to gain in Canadian universities. Keeping pseudoscience out of top resesarch bodies is an issue important to many people and I think greater importance falls upon the first few precedent setting examples. Connor Behan (talk) 17:41, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Looking for something comparable at a Canadian university (a controversy) and I can think of a couple. We don't mention Rushton on the UWO page, we don't mention the Ann Coulter brouhaha on the U of Ottawa page for example. These are, in the grand scheme of things, minor news stories. (As an aside, I despise the anti vax nonsense and pseudoscience in general and am pretty pissed at my PhD alma mater for how they have handled this). Dbrodbeck (talk) 18:59, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
I am pro-vaccine by the way, and the controversy should not be added to the U of T or the Queen's articles. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:03, 1 August 2015 (UTC)