Talk:VCE (company)

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Merge advertisements from single-purpose account[edit]

It looks like the major editor of this one, Acadia (technical partnership), Vblock and Virtual Computing Environment coalition is single-purpose account User:Qthrul who discloses a conflict of interest on their talk page. (Although not sure if "thought leader" is a joke; it reminded me of The Music Man "think system"?) I think a single combined article in neutral tone would be more likely to survive the deletionists than these three bad ones. W Nowicki (talk) 20:13, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

combination?[edit]

How have other mergers been edited or reduced? If Virtual Computing Environment coalition can be considered as deprecated that's certainly one way to clean up the namespace. Qthrul (talk) 22:05, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

I was not planning to delete the names, but redirect here. What usually happens is that an editor runs across an article that has been sitting around for a while as a "stub", and notices that it does not have the depth of independent reliable sources required, and adds it to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Computing which often leads to being deleted entirely. I was trying to head that off by making sure that one article had the depth of coverage to stave off deletion. Generally organizations that are renamed or merged will not get more coverage in the future (unless some scandal comes out?). My guess is since VCE will be the entity that gets coverage as time goes on, which is why I guessed at keeping this one. The other idea I suppose W Nowicki (talk) 23:40, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. I understand and agree. A redirect would work better for both Virtual Computing Environment coalition and Acadia (technical partnership). I've saved both to my sandbox just in case any history updates are sensible later. Qthrul (talk) 01:54, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

On the topic of merging Vblock with VCE (company) I don't follow the logic for such a consideration. Qthrul (talk) 22:15, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Well the Vblock article is more of a product guide, so that one might just be put up for deletion. Just stuffing product specs into a Wikipedia page is not going to last. I know every company starts out optimistically making the distinction between its first product line and the company as a whole, but almost all of them end up as a single concept in the minds of most people. Think of it this way: how many sources in the Vblock article do not mention VCE? Perhaps in ten years time, if VCE is still around and has a new product line called Wblock or somesuch, then the articles can always be re-split (all the history remains if it is merged and not deleted). W Nowicki (talk) 23:40, 9 August 2013 (UTC)  Done
Fair point. The Vblock page is very outdated as of now. Qthrul (talk) 01:54, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Further, I would extend the Acadia (technical partnership) discussion to that of the Virtual Computing Environment coalition if combination has been a precedent elsewhere. Qthrul (talk) 22:17, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

As above, there is probably not much coverage of Acadia that does not also mention VCE in one form or another, so you would have a hard case to claim it had independent notability. The Acadia partnership is also never going to get any more coverage. See the guidelines and specific ones for organizations and companies. W Nowicki (talk) 23:40, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
Agreed. Thank you. Qthrul (talk) 01:54, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Today I noticed that User:Seth_Nimbosa is attempting to create misspellings for Vblock in content, headings, and page names. However, VCE and Vblock are registered trademarks or trademarks of VCE Company LLC or its affiliates in the United States and/or other countries. Others have requested to undo these alter spelling edits. Qthrul (talk) 20:43, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Update[edit]

It's clear that the pages are not being updated so I am inclined to agree with User:W Nowicki at this time. Also, VCE (company) is now an EMC Federation company with investments from Cisco and VMware [1]. Further, there are at least two (2) years of updates history that are not accounted for in the articles. Qthrul (talk) 06:25, 4 June 2015 (UTC)