Talk:Viktor Astafyev

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Lies in the article[edit]

It's clear that the article was written by a person who never red Astafyev. In The Catching of Gudgeons in Georgia Astafyev does not "rudely ridicule" Georgians but shows undermined and subdued position of women in Georgian society.

Natan Eidelman's letter to Astafyev was a KGB provocation taking into account long-term connections of Eidelman with that organization. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:52, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Which rudely ridiculed... indeed could be seen as violating the principle of neutrality, so I change it to ...the latter deemed offensive by the Georgian readership. As for the rest, what exactly is wrong with "In the mid-1980s, he became he became embroiled in significant controversy over his writings followed by accusations of chauvinism and xenophobia...", et cetera? Not a single statement in this sentence can be disputed, regardless of whether he'd been provoked or not. Having said that, surely, you can contribute to the article and do Astafyev justice if you feel like he'd been here poorly treated, just keep your sources reliable. Thanks for the comment, anyway. -- Evermore2 (talk) 20:27, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
you have to read these letters. There is only one episode connected with Jews there - Eidelman accuse Astafyev in the use of word "жид" (Polish for Jew, and used as slang in Russian). Astafyev quotes writing of Eidelman himself with the use of this word in return. The rest has nothing to do with Jews but with the fact that Astafyev was Russian Orthodox Christian and Eidelman as atheist did not accept any of his references to God or religion. Moreover, in his letter Eidelman states that there is no value in Russian culture and that Russians should serve to other volks of Soviet Union like Georgians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:56, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
I vaguely remember to have read them, in Daugava journal. To my mind, both sides disgraced themselves... Mind you, I've expanded the article, but have nothing to do with Eidelman & the Georgians, they are here from times immemorial. As a matter of curiosity, look how the article looked three years ago, before my arrival. -- Evermore2 (talk) 22:59, 26 February 2017 (UTC)


Shouldn't this page be moved to Viktor Astafyev? --Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 09:50, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Astafyev and the 'regime'[edit]

While expanding the article, I came across this: After 1962 he became a professional writer authoring realistic often critical of the Soviet regime novels about the war and the Joseph Stalin era. His criticism of the Soviet times gained him popularity. I have to remove it at least for a while, for this can relate, obviously, to his post-Perestroika works only. Should he venture a word of criticism aimed at the regime, what he'd get would've been 10 years in gulag, instead of all those Orders, medals, Prizes and People Deputy's status. -- Evermore2 (talk) 15:41, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

believe or not but you could criticize Soviet policy in USSR and stay free. But I don't think you will believe because of all western propaganda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:00, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

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