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- 1 Removal
- 2 Origination of Warehousing
- 3 Definition of a Warehouse
- 4 wharehouse
- 5 storehouse redirect
- 6 Warehouse and Stores
- 7 Cold storage info needs further review
- 8 Warehouse functions
- 9 Warenhäuser
- 10 Unreferenced and US specific
- 11 History Expansion Needed
- 12 Structure and Links Review Needed?
- 13 External links modified
Earlier today I removed the line that said
- "Vacant warehouses were an often used location in the late 1980s and early to mid 1990's for illegal raves."
I got reverted quite harshly. Sorry if I offended anyone.
My reasons to remove the line:
- Vacant warehouses have been used for illegal activities of all sorts, as have vacant buildings of all types. I don't see that this is a particularly notable aspect of warehouses in particular.
- The sentence seemed vague to me, and didn't come with a reference, which would have allowed the topic to be expanded.
I modified that line, because while it may be true, it serves no purpose to add that people party in abandoned warehouses. Are we next going to say "After dark, some parks are used for selling drugs or prostitution..."? I am going to have to side with the statement from Dbenbenn in December 2004- Illegal activities have taken place in a variety of vacant buildings, but that doesn't mean it needs to be included in an education tool such as this. TattooedPhreak 13:33, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Origination of Warehousing
To Whom It May Concern,
My name is Dave and I will be hosting an inventory training session for people in our inventory group. I am planning on discussion the origination of warehousing and sedgeway into warehousing today. I am having a difficult time finding info on where warehousing first originated. My guess would be Babylonions, Egyptians and the like... any details or facts would be appreciated.
Dave00155 23:07, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Definition of a Warehouse
The page defines a warehouse as "a commercial building for the storage of goods. I would argue that a warehouse is any point where materials are stored, changed forms (bulk-breaking), or reconfigured for distribution. Examples of not so traditional warehouses could be a field that stores hay bales as well as the hayloft of a barn that stores hay. While the barn may be a commercial building, the field is definitely not, but it still serves as a warehouse. An empty lot serves as a warehouse for a junkyard, a pantry serves as a warehouse for a household kitchen, and a vehicle trunk can serve as a warehouse for travelers on a road trip.
"A commercial building for the storage of goods" is a static definition that is fast becoming outdated. I argue that we should work to develop a more dynamic definition of a warehouse to more fully encompass the many examples of a warehouse. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrew John MacDonald (talk • contribs) 02:41, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Most people using the term storehouse will be looking for Storehouse PLC, yet it is a redirect to 'Warehouse', storehouse in this contect is terminology I have never heard of, I shall change the redirect to a disambag' page. Mtaylor848 (talk) 18:06, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Warehouse and Stores
- This is a discussion about the article and not about the topic. I suggest you ask this at the reference desk Robin 15:38, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
Cold storage info needs further review
This large edit was obviously copied from somewhere else. While it was cleaned up significantly, it could use some further review in case there are copyright problems and to determine which of the external links were meant to be references. --Ronz (talk) 16:26, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
Apologies for leaving the text so Manchester specific- but it is a good example of all types. I was just passing through looking for a link and saw the sad state of the article I needed. So I did a 5 min edit. Ideally, there would be a history section, and a discussion of historic function-- yes still a lot of work.--ClemRutter (talk) 19:07, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
I have been unable to turn up any indication that the German word Warenhaus ("department store") is in any way related to the English word "warehouse", except that the two elements in each word happen to be cognate. I rather think that's a load of rubbish that someone has put in the article. The writer's mistake in rendering the plural form -- it is Warenhäuser, not Warenhausen -- makes me wonder all the more what he knows about German. Kelisi (talk) 21:37, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
- I see your problem in finding a reference- Duden is no help- and saying- spoken with pride by my octogenarian host while staying in D-Eller in 1978 is not easily verifiable. The intermediate stage is found in Taylor, Simon (2002). Manchester: The Warehouse Legacy. An introduction and guide (Reprint 2005 ed.). London W1S 2ET: English Heritage. p. 21. ISBN 1 873592 67 1. Unknown parameter
|author=suggested) (help); whereby what we refer to as Lancashire cotton, is referred to then and now elsewhere as Manchester goods, and the shop as a Manchester goods warehouse- shortened to a Manchester Warehouse- in NSW one store with a web presence is The Manchester Warehouse.
- I haven't mentioned this (see section above) as I don't want the article to become too Manchester Centric. However I would see the strong presence of Solomon Behrens and the other prominent German trading families in Manchester as a root to investigate while looking for the source. -- Clem Rutter (talk) 08:16, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
Unreferenced and US specific
In the last year I haven't seen any added reference or removal of un-cited material. Many unreferenced sections are US specific. images are still present that are pretty but don't illustrate any of the points in the text. What is a sust- because we have a picture of one? Shall I help out by deleting all this material or would someone like to add the references per MOS.-- Clem Rutter (talk) 13:40, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
- The photo-fest has continued- and now we have added material about manufacturing facilities- totally off focus- if anyone wants to defend the material I am about to remove please comment here and give notable references. -- Clem Rutter (talk) 11:53, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
History Expansion Needed
I've expanded the history section quite significantly. In my view, it still doesn't cover anything close to what it needs to. I've expanded a little on Roman and medieval warehouses, but I imagine the most important developments took place in the 19th and 20th centuries. That's outside my area of expertise, but I'm sure visitors would appreciate anyone having a go at filling it in. Curzmg (talk) 04:39, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
Structure and Links Review Needed?
As someone who only recently arrived at this article, the structure and choice of sections seems wholly illogical to me.
I don't mean to be cynical, but it actually seems as though some sections have been added with the intention of providing backlinks to commercial organisations. To me the following make sense:
History | Warehouse function | Storage and shipping systems | Modern trends
It also looks like 'Cool warehouses and cold storage' should be moved into 'Warehouse function', and 'Automation and optimization' into 'Modern trends' to better fit the current structure. The 'Warehousing education' section seems out of place. You could include an education sector in almost any article on this site, but I've rarely seen it before. It also focuses on and links to particular organisations, failing to discuss the broader issues of warehouse education.
On the links front, I included one semi-commercial link myself: "A History of the Warehouse", Action Storage. The page looks like it could be genuinely useful to readers, as well as including solid academic references. I also relied on the source to help write the history section. However, I'm doubting the value of a few references. Why are there two links to 'Pallet Racking Systems Ltd'? Especially when the linked pages provide very little additional information and there's already a complete Wiki page on mezzanines. "Automated Warehouses". Boss Fulfillment. and "Installation Guide for Warehouse Rack Systems" also seem very dubious to me - neither serves as an especially illuminating source on the topics they're cited for.
I'm not going to change anything for the moment, as it's probably best to discuss these issues first. However, it seems like this could be quite an important article for some, but the quality of material and references is currently relatively low. Curzmg (talk) 05:08, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
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