Talk:Warren G. Harding

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search

Moved here from article[edit]

Trivia[edit]

  • Harding is the only U.S. president to be elected on his birthday, November 2 (it was his 55th).
  • Harding is the only president since the "Era of Good Feelings" to win his first term with more than 60% of the popular vote. Since 1920, only Franklin Roosevelt (1936), Lyndon Johnson (1964), and Richard Nixon (1972) have won more than 60% of the popular vote, but all three were incumbents.
  • Harding was the first U.S. President to ride to his inauguration in an automobile.[citation needed]
  • Harding was the first U.S. President to speak on the radio and have one in the White House.[citation needed]
  • Harding is the only President to have been an active Rotarian. He attended the Washington, D.C. Club and addressed the 1923 Rotary International Convention in St. Louis, MO.
  • Harding was known to host poker games at the White House. A legend has it that Harding once lost a set of White House china that had belonged to President Benjamin Harrison; White House historians have since debunked that myth. [1]
  • Norman Thomas, founder of the American Civil Liberties Union and longtime Socialist Party candidate for president, held a childhood job as a newsboy for Harding's Marion Daily Star, where he was supervised by Florence Harding.[citation needed]
  • Harding's political rise is discussed in Malcolm Gladwell's book, "Blink". Gladwell attributes Harding's success and popularity to his commanding physical appearance, genial personality and deep gravelly speaking voice, which caused people to overlook or forgive his lack of competence. Gladwell called this the "Harding Factor." (Gladwell also credits Ohio "kingmaker" Harry Daugherty for much of Harding's success, but attributes Daugherty's interest to his perception of Harding's presence as well.)
  • The School on the early 1990s Nickelodeon show, "The Adventures of Pete & Pete," was Warren G. Harding High
  • Harding is the subject of the song "Warren Harding" by singer-songwriter Al Stewart on his album Past, Present and Future.
  • Corruption in the Harding Administration is investigated by H.L. Mencken and James M. Cain in Roy Hoopes' novel, Our Man in Washington.
  • Harding had the largest feet of any U.S. President. He wore size 14 shoes.[1]
  • In the PC game, Civilization IV, one receives a score at the end of games. One of them is a comparison with one of humanity's leaders, with Harding being the 3rd worst score that one can get.
  • Despite the fact that Prohibition made it illegal, Harding served his friends alcohol.[2]

— Preceding unsigned comment added by John (talkcontribs) 02:52, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Washington Post online politics trivia quiz, October 31, 2006. retrieved October 31, 2006
  2. ^ [Fuqua, N. (2003). U.S. Presidents Feats & Foul-Ups.New York. Lemon Drop Press.

The Harding's Photos[edit]

Changed photos:

"which" vs "that"[edit]

Regarding this phrase: "...the results of a Senate investigation into campaign spending, which had just been released." The clause "which had just been released" simply supplies more information about the results, it is not a defining clause. So "which" is correct. Kendall-K1 (talk) 19:02, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

OK, thanks, not my strongest point of grammar.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:29, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Teapot Dome legality[edit]

Can we really say that Harding was not aware of the illegality of Teapot Dome? Does the cited source say this? Kendall-K1 (talk) 13:36, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Murray 1973, p. 125, "While Harding unquestionably had 'woman trouble' and must bear the onus for that, he ws not connected in any way with the political corruption that befouled his administration." Dean p. 159 "None of these investigations, however, implicated Warren Harding in any corrupt activity or wrongdoing." I think it's fair. Fall, in leasing the naval reserves, was doing what he believed was appropriate, as he supported development of them. It's just that he took a very large sum of money then from Doheny, who got the lease on Teapot Dome. Whether that was a loan, as Fall always claimed, or a bribe, was really the question, but Fall moving to develop Teapot Dome would not have been surprising to Harding.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:30, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
It's hard for me to believe he didn't know his "friends" were corrupt. But I'm happy to go with the sources. Kendall-K1 (talk) 20:51, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Hard to say. Fall invested the money in his ranch, and Harding never went there as president that I'm aware of. Almost done. Just the Senate, the mistresses, and the legacy. I hope to have those tomorrow. After that, I'll try to cut it somewhat. It's still too long. Then I'll list it at WP:PR and get people in to look at it.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:06, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
McCartney was convinced that Daugherty arranged for Harding to win as part of a deal where Sinclair and Doheny would pay millions to the RNC in exchange for Hamon being appointed to head Interior (replaced by Fall after Hamon was murdered). Have you read McCartney? It's a recent book and I can't decide whether he's unearthed new material or is just a sensationalist crackpot. I didn't check any of his sources. I see we don't use him as a source, and don't even mention Hamon. Kendall-K1 (talk) 00:42, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
Publisher's Weekly" review says " McCartney adds nothing new to the story". None of the 50 top history journals reviewed the book. Rjensen (talk) 02:05, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
Sounds like "crackpot" then. But a Google books search turns up a dozen books that say the same thing, and a NYT article from March 8, 1924, which I will try to track down. Kendall-K1 (talk) 11:05, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
Well that didn't take long. The story is traceable to Al Jennings, former train robber turned evangelist, who testified at the Teapot Dome investigation in 1924. Another oil man, J. B. French, made the same claim. Hays denied the story and called it "preposterous." As for the dozen books, I didn't check them, but they all came out after McCartney and I would guess they use him as a source. Kendall-K1 (talk) 11:16, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
I haven't read it. I think we have to avoid drawing conclusions from sources from the 1920s. There was a lot of loose speculation, some wistful thinking, and Harding wasn't there to defend himself and few others were minded to. Harding's papers weren't available til 1964.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:22, 15 June 2015 (UTC)