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Incorrectly sourced sentence on Skyscrapers[edit]

The sentence on how Warsaw is together with London, Paris, Rotterdam and Frankfurt as the cities with the most skyscrapers is completely incorrect, the people who wrote this seem to have forgotten the existence of Istanbul and Moscow and the fact the the source says how the city of London is being COMPARED with other cities in Europe.

I request the removal of this incorrect source, if no one does so I will remove it myself as I have tried before with a proper source replacement, which was immediately reverted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marmiras (talkcontribs) 14:58, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

unbalanced section[edit]

The section on "Famous People" [1] is a bit unbalanced. There have been a lot of famous people born in or from Warsaw, just like there's been a lot of famous people born in or from New York. Obviously we cannot list all of them in this article, so we should focus on the most important ones. Szpilman, Szopen and Curie-Sklodowska obviously qualify. I'm not so sure about Lempicka. Basically it seems she'd be alright to be included in there as long as many other famous folks are also included (and then she should be mentioned more briefly). Here is the list of people from Warsaw [2]. Just eye balling it very quickly I can spot about dozen and a half folks who deserve inclusion in this section more.radek (talk) 05:07, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Warsaw's metro population[edit]

Not sure if I'm doing this right but I just wanted to bring this up. The metro population for Warsaw here says 3,350,000, but the official website of the city and "Global Metro Monitor" of the Brookings site say different, listing it at about 2,500,000. So this might need a revision or further research I guess.

http://www.e-warsaw.pl/2/index.php?id=478

http://www.brookings.edu/reports/2010/1130_global_metro_monitor/1130_global_metro_profiles.aspx

-Red Hair Bow Red Hair Bow (talk) 07:39, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Not b class[edit]

I've downgraded this article from b to c class. It has large chunks of unreferenced text, and style is poor - lots of single-sentence paragraphs. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:41, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

What an article! this is the best wikipedia can show?[edit]

Yes, it seems that Poland is the most brave country in world history, whowww, how they defeted the red devils!! Yes! Awesome! The country with the world record of being-divided-into-whomever-happened -to-be-near-at-any-age seems to be the most impressive power of the world. Yeah, and God is with them too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.252.72.61 (talk) 14:58, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Indeed, and it perpetuates several lies. One being that the Polish reactionaries were the poor brave victims of Bolshevik aggression rather than part of a multinational reactionary invasion of Russia. Another being the lie about the Soviets "abandoning" the Warsaw uprising with a pathetic quote from what amounts to a very partial set of memoirs of someone who was a *child* at the time. Try again! They can't even find a right-wing military historian with any decent reputation to pedal this lie. 82.71.39.170 (talk) 02:47, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Sorry 170.252.72.61, but I couldn't help it and needed to check on your IP, just out of curiosity, where do the people come from, who get so angry about a thing like this. I don't actually care for the article, I haven't even read this part, but I truly fell offended by your idiotical comment (until I discovered where you come from...). Firstly I believe, you don't know a shit about Polish history and learning it out of Wikipedia articles you'll never know any better; secondly, you seem not to get the difference between being a brave nation and being a psychopath aggressive against every other country in the world (like your beloved Russians for example). Thirdly, coming to the whole IP-thing, I can't say I was surprised to find out that you're from Switzerland. Surely you all don't-beat-me-I'm-neutral Swiss sissies can teach us cowardly Poles something about bravery, don't you? I hope you're offended with my comment just like I was with yours. Sincerely DameMitHermelin (talk) 15:07, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

82.71.39.170 - please, give me example of some military historician with a decent reputation who wrote that the Soviets did react while the Warsaw Uprising. I guess you actually believe, that the Red Army fought bravely against the Germans on the 1st August 1944 and on all of the comming days on the side of the Poles? Maybe even for them? Which historician of a decent reputation told you a lie like that? PS. Have you ever heard of Norman Davies? DameMitHermelin (talk) 15:19, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Districts[edit]

The districts section doesn't seem quite right to me. It says that until 1994 there were seven districts (Śródmieście, Praga Północ, Praga Południe, Żoliborz, Wola, Ochota, Mokotów) and that between 1994 and 2002 there were 11 districts (Centrum, Białołęka, Targówek, Rembertów, Wawer, Wilanów, Ursynów, Włochy, Ursus, Bemowo, Bielany). The eighteen since 2002 are mostly made up of these two lists combined (minus Centrum from list 2, add Wesoła which was incorporated at this time). I don't think this is accurately or well portrayed - something has been lost in the translation of "district" but I'm not sure what, and reading the Polish wiki article didn't leave me much clearer. I think that in 1994, the city was made bigger - the central seven districts were made into one (Centrum), each district then had the same powers. In 2002 the central seven were separated and a change in governance/powers happened again. But that's just a guess.... SeveroTC 21:41, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

In 1994 seven districts were combined into one administrative region (a Gmina) named Warszawa-Centrum. Other districts (Białołęka, Targówek, etc.) were separate gminas. So formally, there was no such thing as one city of Warsaw. (For a similar system see Tokyo, Japan.)
In 2002 this system was abolished: all 18 districts were joined into just one administrative region (a Powiat).--78.133.233.211 (talk) 14:55, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for this. Does this mean between 1994 and 2002, the 18 districts (gminas) were part of one powiat (county)? Or were they part of different counties? Also, what was the status of the outer districts before 1994 - gminas of other powiats? Thanks again, SeveroTC 18:18, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

About number of companies registered in Warsaw or any other region in Poland[edit]

Number of companies set up in the region is purely virtual. Most of firms in big cities are semi-illegal form of employment - people registered own firm and work like normal employee. It is illegal, because post-communistic authorities of Poland prohibited provision of services for one subject, but even big companies, like TV stations do not hide that they employ in this way cleaners and presenters. Some companies divide into few smaller to circumvent restrictive tax law and sometimes irrational rules of the Labour Code. And they employ mentioned above "firms" in few their "companies", so they bypass the restriction. Some of companies are set in other region that they work, because it is more easily to go hundred kilometers few time in month to another region than "wrangle" with local ZUS and the tax office branch and their interpretation of law (Polish law is often unclear and have not one interpretation in force in country). And recent times popular is setting business in other countries (and provide services in Poland)to avoid ridiculous law and tax system, which make live in Poland swimming in jelly. And the last but not least - the estimated size of the shadow economy in Poland amounts to 18-20%. 87.205.166.207 (talk) 22:54, 6 December 2011 (UTC)Polish citizen

Pronounciation[edit]

There is something wrong with the .ogg file that's linked - seems it ends too early. Surely the last "a" is lost in it. Let me suggest linking to the pronounciation that's in the Polish wikipedia. The correct file location is: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Warszawa_pl.ogg , but I do not know how to change the code in the English wiki without ruining the article. If someone familiar with the wiki mechanism could do it for me, please do so. Thanks in advance. --JPFen (talk) 22:28, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

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Overall Warsaw collage[edit]

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Vandalism[edit]

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Record low temperature[edit]

The lowest temperature in Warsaw is minus 34 degrees celsius (-34°C) and it was recorded in February, 1929. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gość232 (talkcontribs) 14:03, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Timeline of Warsaw[edit]

What is missing from the recently created city timeline article? Please add relevant content. Contributions welcome. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 13:17, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

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POV pushing, removal of sourced material[edit]

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For the record, the last "sourced" addition - which is also a revert - does not come from a WP:RS as Wikipedia does not cite itself. The issue somehow seems to be "how many skyscrapers existed in the communist era" as opposed to the source's contention that contemporary warsaw has a large number of them either completed or in progress. It's not really a particularly important point, and not worth edit warring over - although this last bit needs to be removed completely per WP:RS and WP:OR. ScrpIronIV 19:19, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

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Scrollbars[edit]

A buggy CSS on this page causes abnormally large scrollbars. Can anyone find and fix it? � (talk) 18:26, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Capital of Second Polish Republic: 1918–39[edit]

The subsection describes only the Polish-Soviet war, the period 1921-1939 untouched. No picture.Xx236 (talk) 13:51, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

9th or 10th largest?[edit]

Should Warsaw be described as the 9th or 10th largest city in the European Union?

9th, The population of Hamburg "refers to the city and federal state of Hamburg, which is composed of 7 districts"[1] etc. The federal state of Hamburg is a state of Germany, which identifies its capital as Berlin.[2] Although Hamburg might be identified as a capital of a federal state, it is not a country capital and therefore should be avoided for confusion as in this case. One might think that Germany possesses two capitals. Oliszydlowski (TALK) 19:04, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
Just going by List of cities in the European Union by population within city limits. El_C 09:55, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
List of "cities" and not capital cities. Hamburg isn't a capital of a country. Please see that in the lead it says 9th largest "capital city". Oliszydlowski (TALK) 20:03, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
It's confusing because the article is linked where it's number ten. Maybe drop capital from the sentence. El_C 10:09, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
How about we change the link to Largest capital cities of the European Union? Oliszydlowski (TALK) 20:21, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
That works, too. Or we can mention both articles: no. 9th and 10th, respectively. El_C 10:33, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
I've changed the link and deleted outdated sources from 2009. Oliszydlowski (TALK) 21:01, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Red army[edit]

Why is there no mention of the fact that Stalin deliberately halted the Red army so the Warsaw Uprising could be crushed in 1944? (SteveNuttal (talk) 14:16, 18 April 2017 (UTC)) Banned editor HarveyCarter Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:46, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Conflicting pronunciations[edit]

Readers see

  1. [varˈʂava]
  2. /vɑːrˈʃɑːvə/

readers hope you would make up your mind. Jidanni (talk) 02:28, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

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