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Weakness in CFS is true, not perceived[edit]

The article gives CFS as an example of perceived weakness. This is simply not true. First of all, CFS does not cause that much general weakness, but rather extremely prolonged recovery after exercise, with weakness during this period. Being a specific and unusual type of weakness, it is a bad example of weakness in general. Further, the muscle weakness in CFS is objectively measurable by bicycling tests. Even those who belive CFS is a purely psychological illness agree that the weakness is real. They say that the weakness is caused by lack of exercise, but this still means it's a real weakness. Almost all issues of breakthrough magazine refer to scientific studies regarding abnormal muscle function in CFS: Even the next paragraph admits weakness in CFS has been measured to be objective and even is a diagnostic criteria. With this much doubt, it's better with a clearer example.

I suggest to replace this example with the heavy, leaden feeling in arms or legs that occur in some types of depression. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:53, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Can you suggest a good source we can use in the article? Wafflephile (talk) 16:30, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
I agree most strongly that the science proves significant biological muscle weakness in MEcfs. I am taking this out. JustinReilly (talk) 11:29, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
I have restored it, with a reliable source. -- Scray (talk) 12:16, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Moved to weakness[edit]

As weakness is the main term as used in the literature I have moved the page here and added a disambig page for other meanings. If the page expands bits can be broken off as subpages.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:32, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Proposal: merger with Muscle weakness[edit]

Topic of this article similar to Muscle weakness. Propose to merge Muscle weakness into Weakness as suggested by Fences_and_windows. Wafflephile (talk) 17:03, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

  • Support Same subject. -- Scray (talk) 05:28, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
  • Neutral I'm ok with either a separate or a unified presentation. I still think muscle weakness is a subtype of weakness, with the latter term being more vague, potentially referring to malaise, dizziness or fatigue as well. If we merge, I think muscle weakness should still be located at a specific section with a header named "muscle weakness". Mikael Häggström (talk) 07:32, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
There's been no action on this in about two years, and it does not appear that consensus has been reached, so I've removed the tags. LT910001 (talk) 00:01, 2 November 2013 (UTC)