Talk:Werner Erhard

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somebody needs to check this. i tried but am not experienced enough with archived sources. as it is, BOTH links are active--the archive one works fine (going to the relevant material as found now at the Wayback Machine). however, the original link is still active, in the sense that it appears as a clickable link (text="the original"), and when clicked it attempts to go to the Landmark Education site, but (at least on my browser) it was blocked with a "connection is insecure" warning that reads, "The owner of has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not connected to this website."Colbey84 (talk) 12:56, 16 May 2016 (UTC)


The section "Self-education" says: Werner Erhard, while being largely self-educated, has learned from and worked closely with academics, philosophers and thinkers such as... followed by an impressively long list of notable and semi-notable names, supported by this source. Using a primary source for this gives it the appearance of name dropping, but it's also inconsistent. Was he self-educated, or did he learn from a laundry list of notables? Can we find a more neutral source for this, while we're at it? Grayfell (talk) 02:30, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

  • The sources cited, the Financial Times and Leeson, clearly back up the statement that Erhard was self-educated (the Financial Times refers to Erhard as an autodidact, which is defined as being self-educated). The scholars listed are individuals that Erhard both learned from and sometimes collaborated with as he developed his body of work. Including the thinkers that he interacted with (sourced by the Social Science Research Network) isn’t namedropping but rather speaks to the wide breadth of Erhard's studies and ongoing self-education. It is not at all inconsistent with being self-educated to learn from others who have mastery in areas one is studying and working in.--RecoveringAddict (talk) 16:27, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Moreno clarification[edit]

The book, "Impromptu Man, J.L. Moreno and the Origins of Psychodrama, Encounter Culture, and the Social Network," was written by Jonathan D. Moreno, the son of J.L. Moreno. They are not the same person. J.L. is deceased but Jonathan D. Moreno is alive, well and is a current writer and professor. For his book, Jonathan D. interviewed Erhard and wrote a section about the est training, on page 246 Jonathan D. writes, "Over the next couple of decades the vilification of Erhard only intensified. Allegations of all sorts of personal and financial wrongdoing were hurled at him, none of which were born out and some were even publicly retracted by major media organizations." This supports my edit, stating there were "ad hominem attacks" on Erhard, therefore it is an appropriate edit. --RecoveringAddict (talk) 20:21, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Nationality in lead sentence[edit]

Is there some reason NOT to include? --Malerooster (talk) 22:47, 25 October 2016 (UTC)