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set aside pride in this case

There is a tendency for Bengalis to let their pride influence what goes in this article. I request that Bengalis try to be fair, neutral and help to improve this article. Bengalis must remember that this article is not an advertisement. There are a lot of things wrong with the state that need improving. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.31.200.112 (talk) 04:54, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Pictures!!!!

Whoah.... way to many pictures! The shear number of pictures is just overwhelming, especially at the bottom of the article where there is a long column of pictures on both sides of the text. I don't know what to look at!!! I think the pictures can clearly do with some thoughtful editing and compositing, as well as deleting. I am not a West Bengali, so I can't make the determination of what should and shouldn't be included, but someone please!! Clean up this eyesore.--Taajikhan (talk) 19:42, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Bangla wiki

The Bangla wikipedia is just taking off, but unfortunately, there are not too many wikipedians from West Bengal in the bangla wiki. So, I'd request editors from West Bengal to join there and add the articles on West Bengal, Kolkata etc. Please check out http://bn.wikipedia.org . Thanks. --Ragib 02:07, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Governor of West Bengal

This article is required in Wikipedia. --Victor.P.Das 21:00, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Governors of West Bengal is in an ok-ish status as of now.--Dwaipayan (talk) 03:06, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Religion?

What is the current religious breakdown? Also, percentages for the demographics section? pfahlstrom 23:27, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Demographics has been updated, including religious data.--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:47, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Flora and fauna

I'll work in the flora and fauna, which is the part I can probably most contribute to, since I'm a biologist by training, but it might take me some time. I'll probably write it offline as a hart summary and link out to a separate page. Give me a week to compose it offline and I'll have it ready to be added next week. Take care all. Great job so far Dwaipayan --Anirban 20:16, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

You can write a large article named Flora and fauna of West Bengal, and add its gist here in the of West Bengal, and add a link to larger one as the main article. See rhe history and Geography section for example. Thanks.--Dwaipayan (talk) 11:44, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
The West Bengal page section for Flora and Fauna is done. Sometime I'll write up a larger article. --Antorjal 14:49, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Kansai Link

I just removed the link to "Kansai" in the geography section. This is because the link pertains to the Kansai region of Japan (e.g. Kyoto, Osaka), not to a Bengali river. If anybody has a disagreement with this for whatever reason, please discuss your views here. Thank you! --Kuaichik 22:38, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi... I've linked it to the Kangsabati River which is another common name for the Kasai. Thanks for spotting the link. :)--Antorjal 01:47, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Ganges delta map

80% of the land mass shown in the map is actually the Bangladeshi side of Ganges Delta (you can determine this by locating Hatiya, the large island at the mouth of the Meghna River. WB is visible only at the lower left 15-20% of the satellite image. So, is there a better map available that shows more of WB? --Ragib 17:40, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. Will try to find out one better/replace with something else.--Dwaipayan (talk) 10:05, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

West Bengal districts map.

  • I downloaded the excellent svg file created by deeptrivia and modified it per Samir's suggestions in the peer-review using Inkscape.
  • Modifications :
  1. Midnapore District has been bifurcated to show both Paschim Medinipur and Purba Medinipur.
  2. Numbered and listed districts per comments at peer-review.
  3. Font size reduced for clarity, since the districts are now listed.
  4. Many of the spellings did not conform to linked articles in the text. All spellings now match the West Bengal article spellings.
  • Unfortunately, the file works fine with software but doesn't format correctly on the page itself - [1]. So I've created an exported png bitmap file too and I'm using that one - [2] until the experts can fix the svg file (which would be awesome). Take care and please don't mind the ineptitude of a novice :P. --Antorjal 14:29, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

The map needs immediate modification. The whole Asansol sub division of Bardhaman is being shown as part of Bankura. Serious error! Someby please fix this. Remember, Bardhaman is to the north of Damodar while Bankura and Purulia to the south of it. Antorjal, can you take this up? Crackjack (talk) 22:16, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Sports Section needed attention

The Sports section need some reference as well some more information. The section looks more like of Kolkata rather than of a state. Important sport personalities should be added like Sourav Ganguly and other. Amartyabag 04:38, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

citation

I have to say some "citation needed" tags are odd, specially the one claiming a reference for "Durga puja most popular festival"--ppm 17:55, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Why is it odd? — Indon (reply) — 20:40, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
because it seems like the least controversial statement in the article. its like "west bengal is an indian state" (citation needed)--ppm 22:22, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Citation isn't used solely for controversial statements. Do you think that every readers should know that "west bengal is an indian state"? One common knowlegde for someone does not mean that it is also common knowledge to someone else. Now, please tell me why Durga puja is claimed to be the most popular festival? — Indon (reply) — 22:37, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
You answered yourself. There isn't a citation needed mark for "west bengal is an indian state". Why? Citations are valuable real estate. They should be used for controversial statements, or statements where there is a need for elaboration but not in the text. For example a survey should be cited, because people might want to know who was the surveyor, what was the statistical method employ, exactly how many people were surveyed etc. What would a citation for Durga puja serve? By the way, I am not suggesting that there cannot be a citation for it. I just don't understand why such a citataion is INDISPENSABLE for the article.--ppm 00:48, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I asked for the source why Durja puja is called "popular". Provide that with your source. Otherwise remove the line. All things that you wrote in WP must be supported by a reliable source. Yes, there isn't a citation for "west bengal is an indian state", but if somebody asks for that, you must be able to supply your source.
And the way you answer "You answerd yourself", is very uncivil.
Indon (reply) — 09:47, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Not all citations have to be in the same article. For example, "West Bengal is a state of India", here, the India article is the appropriate place to add a citation to this fact, rather than going to all of the state articles and repeating the same citation there. When an internal wikilink suffices, adding citations just makes the article cluttered. --Ragib 02:11, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I did not ask for that fact. I asked the fact that why Durja puja is popular. — Indon (reply) — 09:47, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
But the methodological question remains. Is it okay if the article Durga Puja has that info (I think it does)? --ppm 18:49, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Also, I agree that if someone wants to see proof that West Bengal is an Indian state, it must be provided. But once everyone is convinced, should it be in the article? I don't think so. What kind of encyclopedia cites the first sentence?--ppm 18:52, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

clarification

"though Hindi and Urdu may also be used." - why "may"? is this a matter of legality or common practice?--ppm 18:43, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Do we have to mention the number of MLAs and also the number of constituencies separately? -- Sundar \talk \contribs 14:16, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, number of Assembly Constituencies is 294 while that pf MLAs is 295 (including one nominated from Anglo-Indian community). That's why it was thought that both should be mentioned. What do you think?--Dwaipayan (talk) 15:23, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

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Battle of Plassey ?

In the article West Bengal, it is written that,'Their influence grew until the British East India Company gained taxation rights in Bengal subah, or province, following the Battle of Plassey in 1757, when Siraj ud-Daulah, the last independent Nawab, was defeated by the British.[8]'. Is the spelling Plassey correct, or it should be Palashi? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sreerup (talkcontribs) 07:39, 6 February 2007 (UTC).

Since this is the English version of Wikipedia, I say Plassey be the accepted spelling. But a line could be entered that spells it in bengali and transliterates it as poloshi once for completions sake.Taajikhan 23:09, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

It certainly should not be called the battle of Palashi, just because it's called Palashi now. Take for example, the battle of Stalingrad - Stalingrad has been Volgograd now for decades, yet the battle has never been called the battle of Volgograd, has it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Stalingrad --Blenheim Shots (talk) 22:39, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Plassey is nothing but the anglised version of Palashi. The place was called Palashi even before the war and continue to be called so by the local people. But as this is the english wikipedia, we will continue with the Plassey, the more common form. Amartyabag TALK2ME 01:32, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Land acquisition clashes

In the "History" section, I added a bit on the repeated clashes against administration on the industrial land acquisition issue that are occurring in 2007. Since this is a featured article, I thought it would be wise to declare that in the talk page. Please comment if you think this addition is unnecessary/ needs modification. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 08:28, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Dwaipayan for writing a very neutral statement on this matter. This is one of the bad event which occured in our state. I think we can start a new article regarding this (which is supposed to be vandalised very often), already something is written in the Nandigram page. Amartyabag TALK2ME 10:40, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Pronunciation clip

...is totally useless. It's pronouncing the English name, LOL. Tuncrypt 03:49, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Change in description of Durga picture

I have changed the definition of the Durga picture from "an idol" to "a Murti (representation)" of Durga. It is common misconception that Hindus worship idols. Calling these representations idols is as incorrect as referring to the Cross or similar representations of Jesus in the same manner. Idolatry as defined in Wikipedia itself is "a term used in religion for the non-monotheism worship of cult images, termed idols." This is not what the image of Durga represents.

Well the word Murthi is translated in English as idol or sculpture, right ?? And since this is the English version of Wikipedia, I think only English words should be used. Anyone else agrees with me ???? Aparajita —Preceding unsigned comment added by Help Always (talkcontribs) 12:02, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

The word "idol" in English usage, especially in western countries, has a pagan connotation and is often used against religions that are viewed as polytheistic, which Hinduism is not. The complex nature of the representation of one God into many forms is not something that can be easily translated into one word. The word sculpture or statue may be a better fit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.229.83.26 (talk) 19:45, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Nepalese people

Most of the ethnic Nepalese people (people collectively called Gurkha or Nepali consisting of Limbu, Rai, Tamang, Newar, Sherpa, Khas Bahun, Khas Chetris, Lepcha, Bhutia etc) in India live in West Bengal and Sikkim. In West Bengal, they reside mostly in Darjeeling region . Although they are a minority, I think mention should be made about these people and use of Nepali language mostly in Northern districts where they have a significant population. In Darjeeling and Jalpaiguri districts of West Bengal, there are about 1,400,000 Nepali speakers.. Thanks. --Eukesh 18:23, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Its needed and just perfect. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:24, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
I think it is equally important to add a few lines about the culture of Darjeeling, preferably one or two lines each para or to make a seperate para itself.I have added a see also tag to the article. Amartyabag TALK2ME 08:45, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Aryan, Dravidian divide

"when the region was settled by Dravidian, Tibeto-Burman and Austro-Asiatic peoples. The exact origin of the word Bangla or Bengal is unknown, though it is believed to be derived from the Dravidian-speaking tribe Bang that settled in the area around the year 1000 BCE.[4] After the arrival of Indo-Aryans," It's been very hard working out what is Aryan or Dravidian, considering how the Aryan Invasion Theory has mainly been scrapped...this bit really needs to be changed..there is little difference between the peoples of Northern India and Southern genetically...the linguistic divide does not mean we have to split India into two...gee...this early part needs to be properly researched!!!Domsta333 (talk) 08:47, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

The Aryan Invasion Theory is not scrapped, it has been argued to bt mythical by some scolars, but nonetheless any official consensus has been reached and it reamins to be accepted as fact, from my personal belief it did happen. There in fact people of North India has genetic differences then South Indian people -- North Indians resemble Caucasoid phenotypical structure [pointy nose, lighter iris, fairer skin etc], while south Indians are Australoid [dark/black skin and iris, round nose etc.]. However large-scale uninterrupted miscegenation has somewhat blurred the differences... also the North Indian languages [Sanskrit, Hindi, Bangla etc.] are derived from Indo-Iranian script which itself part of Indo-European language family. South Indian tounges are Dravidian derived [i.e. Tamil, Kannada etc.]. I believe these facts are worthy of mentioning. We are not splitting India into two.

However culturally India is already split into 28 parts, however ethnically 3 fold [Caucasoid*Australoid*Mogoloid].

XFACT 21:42, 10 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xfact (talkcontribs)

Edits by User:Radar signal

Radar signal (talk · contribs) has been adding a "section" on "religion". I have removed it for the following reasons:

  • The section is redundant, religion is already covered under demographics. Any details (as added by Radar signal) can and should go to sub articles (perhaps "Hinduism in West Bengal")?
  • The information was also entirely pov ... it focused on only 66% of the WB demographic, and was opinions rather than referenced facts.

This is a featured article, and all significant structural changes need to be discussed here first. Thanks. --Ragib (talk) 20:49, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Radar signal, is informed not to incorporate such material without discussing them at the talk page of the article. As Ragib has suggested, it would be ok to create an article like Hinduism in West Bengal and have a section on saints there, with adequate references.--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:12, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
    • only 66? But it still represents the majority. If you believe the other populations are under-represented then you gladly are welcome to add edits on them. - radar signal —Preceding comment was added at 06:31, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
  • I believe that the religion section of the article is essential to explain to Wiki viewers if the religious customs of the people of West Bengal! I believe it is very important to discuss the caste diversity amongst Hindu devotees. - radar signal

Once again, I request the user Radar signal (talk · contribs), and his myriad anon IP addresses, to heed to the above advice and stop disrupting this featured article. Also, I request the user to refrain from making personal attacks. Thank you. --Ragib (talk) 09:15, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Once again, I request the user Radar signal (talk · contribs) to refrain from dumping random religious information here. This is a featured article, and you can't dump info here like this. --Ragib (talk) 22:45, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Edits of radar signal

Before making edits to this article, which is a featured article, read WP:SS, and WP:V. Some sentences in your additions is WP:OR, and needs appropriate citation. (such as, "West Bengal Pride itself as one of the most secular states in India.")

However, more important here is sticking to WP:SS. First, try to make an article like Saints in West Bengal or Hinduism in West Bengal. Then try adding a gist to West Bengal, that too it deserves a mention in the article. Naming so many less notable saints is in no way deserves a place in this article. Some, who deserves a mention, such as Vivekananda, ramakrishna, Chaiyanya etc have already been mentioned in "Culture" section.--Dwaipayan (talk) 07:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Once again, Radar signal is at it. I'd like to remind him once again, this is an FA, please don't dump random, redundant, pov sections without getting any consensus. Already explained to you multiple times in this talk page. --Ragib (talk) 20:25, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Once again, Radar signal (talk · contribs) is back to his usual reverts against consensus. Please stop. At least, please discuss here in the talk page. --Ragib (talk) 02:14, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Users 'Dwaipayan' and 'Ragib', it is not up to you both to decide what information can and cannot go on the page. If the issues are West-Bengal-realted and are not in anyway abusive to any ethnic group, they will be presented. - Radar signal —Preceding comment was added at 02:23, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Finally, a reply!! Anyway, you have not mentioned/justified the addition of a large amount of text into a section already written in summary style. Also, your addition is quite lop sided in terms of demographics and religious distribution. Remember that this is a featured article ... if you want to add/make large scale changes, you must discuss things here and get a consensus about the material. I urge you to heed to Dwaipayan's advice above, i.e. to create an article on saints first, and then add a sentence or two long gist of that here. Until then, don't dump random, non-summarized, pov text here. Thank you. --Ragib (talk) 02:28, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
User 'Ragib' wrote, "large scale changes"? This is merely little information related to West Bengal. User 'Ragib' wrote, "get a consensus about the material"? I don't require the concensus from vandals. Behave with Wikipedia rules of civility. - Radar signal —Preceding comment was added at 02:45, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Dear Radar signal, you are making a personal attack in your comments. Yes, you do need to get a consensus to make large scale undiscussed changes to a featured article. This article has been declared a featured article because it has met several strictly defined criteria, including summary style, neutrality etc. Your additions are not in summary style; also the text is POV and provides undue weight to the topic, and is redundant at different parts. --Ragib (talk) 02:54, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

I have seen the edits of Radar signal, they are completely full of POV statements, being a FA every matter can't go in the article, this article follows summary style. You may create a sub article like Hinduism in West Bengal. Moreover your comments are full of personal attack. Dwaipayan and Rajib both are experienced users and their revert are completely justified. You may discuss your addition here. Amartyabag TALK2ME 05:38, 30 June 2008 (UTC) Put a Kaibash on Radar signal —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.21.11.117 (talk) 07:08, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

After observing what is happening on this page, I would say, it is time for Radar Signal to give up. Your talent could be much better utilized somewhere else. May be you should ask one of your old teachers. They will tell you that you have not grown a bit since you left school. We understand your burning desire to contribute. Fortunately, there are lot of places where this could be done. Your user id contains the word signal. However, you are getting none, when people are telling that you better give up. After all, how is religion so important in the state? Poverty, unemployment and illiteracy are so huge of a problem in West Bengal, that they should be focused on. Remembering few saints from two hundred years back is not going to help much.

The preceding comment was added by anon user "76.21.11.117", however the comment was deleted during a revert process. so, re-inserting the comment. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 21:46, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

1947 or 1960?

Since West Bengal has existed in its present form since partition in 1947, why does the info box say that it was established in 1960? What (if anything) happened in 1960 that made any difference to West Bengal's borders or status,or anything else? I'd be grateful for any clarification. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.17.154.153 (talk) 20:22, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

culture of west bengal

203.192.229.204 (talk) 14:35, 21 October 2008 (UTC) The Bangla language of west bengal boasts a rich literary heritage. The encounter with western enlightenment brought about a literary transformation that made west bengal or rather kolkata the cultural capital of India.West Bengal has a long tradition in folk literature indicated by charyapada and stories related to Gopal Bhar.

Poshchim Bônggo

Poshchim Bônggo? Is that a transcription? That final letter is definitely an /a/. It's pronounced as /la/, too - Bangla, or sometimes Bongla, but not Bonggo. (Yes, I do know what I'm talking about - I lived there 2 years and learned the language). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.129.49.238 (talk) 04:02, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Add: For the early history, it would be more correct, and in keeping with what the reference says, to say that these early people "later became known as" the Bang people - the earliest records call them Vang. This is all in the referenced source. What's not in the source is the origin of the "-la" at the end - it comes from a word meaning dikes or levees, meaning that these were the Vang people in the land of the levees (along the rivers). From Vangla it became Bangla and Bangala (under the Moghuls), before being Anglicised to Bengal by the British. 203.129.49.238 (talk) 04:09, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

All 3 are acceptable, you should know that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neel Lahiri (talkcontribs) 04:16, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Category:Bengal vs. Category:West Bengal

Category:West Bengal is itself a category within Category:Bengal. — Robert Greer (talk) 13:58, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

The term Bengal is used in connection with the articles of Undivided Bengal before Partition of India or in articles which are common to both West Bengal and Bangladesh. Amartyabag TALK2ME 02:02, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Recent img bashing may've been valid

I have restored imgs that vanished on WB's main page day (even the image that went to the main page was gone). But i think that all present imgs aren't fit. like the pilgrim and the hut which has some numbers hanging around. Opinions? Hometech (talk) 12:06, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Water project needed. Rotary and or else, info needed

I am looking into the feasibility of improving the tube wells or adding some, also want current info on water use habbits, needs, existing issues , direction of any authority having jursitiction. Greg Chick, Rotary club of Dist. 5340, ramona Ca. USA. Ramonasplumber@sv-mail.com , —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.43.129.124 (talk) 15:27, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Dubious

After the arrival of the Indo-Aryans

--- seeing as the very existence of a genetically distinct Indo-Aryan race is strongly disputed, this sentence is dubious. GSMR (talk) 22:48, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

math

Bold text —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.163.165 (talk) 05:18, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Enlarge Bengali script?

Words in Bengali script in this article appear too tiny for my (aging) eyes. They need a larger font. A simple <big>পশ্চিমবঙ্গ</big> takes it from পশ্চিমবঙ্গ to পশ্চিমবঙ্গ. I didn't want to use up a whole edit -- with all the overhead it entails -- just for this. Perhaps one of the habitual editors can add this to their list of things to do next time they work on the article. LADave (talk) 21:07, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

POV

The reason West Bengal is the poorest state in India may well be the "because of high political instability, bad governance and skewed economic policy of the state government", but it remains opinion. It may be an opinion which is obvious and universally held but it's still an opinion. In a similar vein Wikipedia is not here to tell people that Hitler was an evil man. The task is merely to present the evidence and let readers draw their own conclusions. The same point goes for the quality of governance in West Bengal. — Blue-Haired Lawyer 21:24, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

West Bengal 1947

West Bengal Came into exsistance on 15th August, 1947 as per Indian Independence Act, 1947 and not 1960 as was mentioned in lead. Later the Princely State of Cooch Bihar & Chandanagar & parts of Bihar were added in to it. I do not know, how the year of establishement was mentioned as 1st May, 1960, till date. I have changed the date to 1th August, 1947. Jethwarp (talk) 17:04, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Economy

In the third para of the Economy section, it is mentioned that WB has the third largest economy. Firstly the report it cites is grossly outdated. The timeline mentioned is of 2003-04, where RBI and CSO has released Net State Domestic Product till the year 2008-09 for all the states. Refer http://www.rbi.org.in/scripts/AnnualPublications.aspx?head=Handbook%20of%20Statistics%20on%20Indian%20Economy

Clearly, WB does not have the third largest economy keeping NSDP as a parameter according to.recent data. (Please check above link) We are currently 4th behind Maharastra, UP, Andhra Pradesh Respectively.

And Lastly the whole section needs to be updated factoring recent developments as to:

1. Current Fiscal Debt of the State Govt. 2. Current Economic Policy of the new State Govt.

I propose that this be done in a neutral manner not giving any political colour to the said section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arnab.nlu (talkcontribs) 00:02, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

West Bengal to be renamed Paschimbanga

West BengalPaschim Banga

West Bengal is officially renamed Paschim Banga. Ref=http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_west-bengal-renamed-as-paschim-banga_1577521 Karthik Nadar (talk) 12:18, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. I have updated the article. Qwerta369 (talk) 13:22, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
This is not a done deal, this is a long drawn out process, Orissa was at this stage in 2009, and it's still not completed (pending Rajya Sabha approval when I last checked). Until such time that this becomes official just a sentence on the state govt proposing a change should suffice. —SpacemanSpiff 13:54, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Yes, it has to go to two houses of Parliament, and then the President (at least) before any change becomes actually official. Lynch7 16:58, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
I think this name changing issue must be added to the etymology section. -Arnab Dutta 07:50, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

new name of westbengal

The name westbengal was changed by then chief minister Mamta Benarjee on august 19,2011.New name "Pashchim Bongo" was assigned to westbengal(Paschim Bangal). It was discision of chief minister and all the MLAs of westbengal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumitchoudhary04 (talkcontribs) 16:50, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Paschimbanga

I think the spelling of the new official name is Paschimbanga and not Paschim Banga. So the name of this article should also be changed to Paschimbanga. -Trinanjon Basu (talk) 10:45, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Changing of state names is a long constitutional process. The name 'Paschimbanga' is suggested, but is yet to go through that process. After the name changing bill is passed in the parliament and signed by the President of India, it will officially been Paschimbanga. Untill then, this name is just a proposed name. We should not change the name in Wikipedia yet. Arnab Dutta 00:15, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Bengali pronounciation

The Common Vowel that is assumed in Bengali is "O", where as in Hindi it is "A". Hindi influence in the past has over ridden Bengali Usuage with that of Hindi, thus Calcutta, rather than Kolkata. The proposed new title of Poschim Bongo, has been so written in phoenetics in the article at the beginning, BUT the transliteration has reverted to Hindi Poschim Banga! It should be Poschim Bongo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.10.139.34 (talk) 01:31, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

The two Os in Bongo should be pronounced like Congo. --Arnab Dutta (talk) 11:48, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 18 November 2011

Please change "West Bengal is the sixth-largest contributor to India's GDP" to "West Bengal is the third largest contributor to India's GDP." The source cited. Source: http://mospi.nic.in/6_gsdp_cur_9394ser.htm 24.250.79.202 (talk) 02:38, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Not done for now: we need more than just one source for that claim. --Ella Plantagenet (talk) 03:58, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Bengal history

I have noticed that under the link 'Bangladesh', there is a brief history of that country starting from 13th century , but here under 'WestBengal' there is no history attached . However how Bengal / Bangla / Bangali were evolved from one to two thousand years BC , was an enchanting story and good to know. Every bangali whether originated from westbengal or bangladesh should feel great when they know this very ancient history . So, my request , if that old history can be added in this link. Thank you. from : pramita@comcast.net — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.231.88.4 (talk) 18:03, 18 November 2003‎ (UTC)
This has alrady been done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Help Always (talkcontribs) 11:50, 22 October 2007‎ (UTC)

Changes

Hello everyone. After hearing about the FA-status regarding this article, I was curious to check it out myself.

In regard of content work, I couldn't find any sort of problem or shortcoming. The grammar is pretty much accurate, and content is very good. Overall, in this case, definitely worth an FA tag.

In regard of images, My God! How did this article ever get an FA? The images are numerous, but that's about the only plus point. All the images are badly placed, improperly aligned and give the article an extremely cluttered and unreadable look. Really, an FA must pay great attention to matters of clarity, and here, the article is surprisingly lacking. I made some major changes regarding the images, alignment and a template as well. I suggest using multiple image templates whenever any section ends up having too many photos.

In regard of verifiability, I can see some missing references and tags for "When?" and "Who?", which is absolutely shocking since no article should pass an FA reviews when such matters are lacking. I strongly suggest that editors get this matter fixed, else such matters may make this article a strong candidate for demotion.

Overall, I wasn't satisfied with this article, and frankly expected much more. Hopefully, positive improvements will take this article in a far better direction. And by the way, I am Bengali and hence my deep interest regarding this article's welfare. Cheers! AnkitBhattWDF 07:34, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Add to rail section

The Maitree Express is a joint venture between Indian Railways and Bangladesh Railways and runs from Kolkata Railway Station India to Dhaka Cant. Station in Bangladesh.

Not done, doesn't seem to need inclusion, covered plenty in it's own article--Jac16888 Talk 17:58, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 6 January 2012

The website for the government has changed from wbgov.com to westbengal.gov.in

Aquitaine (talk) 18:09, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

 Done, thank you for pointing it out--Jac16888 Talk 17:54, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Work needed

Hello everyone! This article currently appears near the top of the cleanup listing for featured articles, with several cleanup tags. Cleanup work needs to be completed on this article, or a featured article review may be in order. The tags should either have the issues they refer to fixed and then the tags removed or, if they are unjustified, simply removed. Please contact me on my talk page if you have any questions. Thank you! Dana boomer (talk) 21:15, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Okay, my comments:-
  • The first thing that badly hits the eye when viewing this article are the images. Having images in articles is an excellent practice; stuffing the article to breaking point with images is bad. The number of images can be reduced by at least 40%; I tried the method of collapsing multiple images into single horizontal/vertical templates, but that's only a marginal improvement.
  • The article is in very urgent need of good copy-editing.
  • There are surprisingly old references in this article; it feels like this article has got stuck in time, and that is totally unacceptable by FA standards. Updates are required, and in major quatities.
  • A FA article boasts of a "Original Research" tag; terrible to say the least. I believe we require a FARC here too, or perhaps an RFC will do, to find out the "original research" and either provide references or remove the statements altogether. But at all costs, that banner has to go, otherwise passing administrators can immediately consider the article for a downgrade in status.
These are the major issues; minor issues may come up as the article is combed through. Hope this helps, and please keep the article and its talk page in your watchlist. This article is receiving very little attention from Wikipedia editors, and consistent and attached editors are required with immediate effect. I'll chip in too, though less frequently as I have other articles to see to as well. ~*~AnkitBhatt~*~ 15:46, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the work-list. We need to go slow, but steady! First, we need to upgrade and update references. I have started doing that gradually. Please have a look at Economy of West Bengal, that article has been improved and increased in size, with updated references. Plan is to bring a summary from that article to the Economy section here within a few days. We can go similarly for other sections.Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:40, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
We can use several references which we have used in the Kolkata article. Count me in for the editing process. Amartyabag TALK2ME 16:57, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
Sure, take it easy. I just gave the list as a reference, and we should definitely work on it one point at a time. Strike out every point when completed. Hopefully, an RFC won't be required and a lot of time can be saved. I'll check the mentioned articles. ~*~AnkitBhatt~*~ 17:05, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
Since u guys are improving on this article. I would like to mention few stuff
  • ) Take help from this source, don't simply copy but take few information which are quite accurate.
  • ) The top section of the article hasn't been improved or elaborated neither enough relevant source had been provided. Therefore please improve the top most section of the article.
  • ) Ensure current information's are provided in Economy, Education, Sport, Climate and Health as well as.
Lastly try to provide enough sources to support the information.--Kkm010* ۩ ۞ 04:43, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Addition of Tourism section to article

The Karnataka article has a separate section for tourism. I am the authour of Tourism in West Bengal and Tourist attractions in West Bengal. I suggest to ass a section on tourism in this article, on West Bengal. However Tourism in West Bengal does not have the information on the revenue the state gets from tourism. I can edit the article but want to ask my other fellow Wikipedians. When replying please leave me a talk-back template. Face-smile.svg Thank you --Tamravidhir(২০১২) 11:35, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Often a section on Tourism is discouraged unless it holds very important role, such as a real big contributor to the economy of the state. Things that are tourism attractions are already covered in sections such as geography, flora and fauna, culture, transport and so on. That being said, there is no strict guideline either against the inclusion of tourism section.
What you can try to do is develop a section on Tourism in your sandbox, and then provide a link here. Please take care not to repeat information from the rest of the article. Consensus may be generated after that. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:28, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
Thank you! Tamravidhir(২০১২) 10:46, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Chola Rule of Bengal?!

The second paragraph of the article has been vandalized. "Chola rule of Bengal" (an insignificant and unconfirmed bit of West Bengal's history) has been included while Sasanka, and Pala and Sena dynasties are not even mentioned. I request an edit to bring things into order. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brahma daitya (talkcontribs) 17:56, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

pluralize "artists"

It says "Nobel-laureate Rabindranath Tagore to scores of musicians, film-makers and artist."

It should say "artists." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.0.105.205 (talk) 02:19, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 2 April 2013

The map of india is perverted because part of India in kashmir has been shown outside india depicting it in seperate colour which is not correct. as per constitution of india jammu & Kashmir is an integrated part of india and Line of control (LOC) is not the international boundary among india, pakistan and china. So please correct the perverted map of india. pakistan has kept a part of kashmir in their control illegally and to make the problem critical they have involved china by donating an encroached part to china. All these acts are illegal and india has not accepted this illegal act. So the wrong map of india where you have shown india's territory outside india needs to be corrected immediately. Indian govt lodged strong complaint to google for similar act and google has corrected it. So wikipedia should correct the mistake immediately. 116.203.198.1 (talk) 14:12, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page West Bengal. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. —KuyaBriBriTalk 14:25, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Correction

I excluded the language of Rajbanshi,because it is a local dialect of Bengali,mainly spoken in northern part of North Bengal.

There are no people such as Gurkha,those are living in Darjeeling are all Nepalese immigrants,Gurkha is a Military term used in British and Indian army,as of this-GurkhaOvsek (talk) 05:34, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

And by the way Hindi etc are given Government acknowledgement because of increasing number of immigrants.Not in decreasing number!Ovsek (talk) 15:08, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Edits by User:বিজয় চক্রবর্তী

User:বিজয় চক্রবর্তী has been making mostly one-sided edits in a number of articles, including the current one, without caring much about the Wikipedia policies. I had reverted one of his edits to the etymology section, which removed a referenced section and introduces a *.blogspot.in link as reference. The reason for the reversal was given as Revert addition of blogspot.in link and removal of sourced content. The above user has again reverted the same to his favored version with an edit summary Unexplained revert reverted!. As far as I know, "etymology is the study of the history of words, their origins, and how their form and meaning have changed over time. By an extension, the term "the etymology of [a word]" means the origin of the particular word." And, the version promoted by the above editor actually robs the section of its purpose totally! Other editor's opinion in this regard will be highly appreciated. Thanks. Shovon (talk) 10:52, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Dear Bijoy, I understand that you are emphasizing the etymology of "west" part of West Bengal. Of course, that is important. At the same time, the article needs to say the etymology of "Bengal" as well. Indeed, "west" is a simple English word, and a mention of partition (which is detailed in the History section) is adequate to explain west. On the other hand, Bengal or Bongo is not an English word, and needs etymological explanation, if available.--Dwaipayan (talk) 00:58, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Dear Dwaipayan, I removed the explanation on Bengal (Bangla or Bongo) word origin because it has it's content on the page Bengal, don't you think West Bengal is a modern political division-ed page and shall not contain much on Bengal word origin to confuse readers, The content of Bengal word origin is on the page of Bengal, Thank you and Regards :), Please let me know further. বিজয় চক্রবর্তী (Bijoy Chokroborti) 05:52, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi! You are correct that Bengal should have detailed explanation on the name Bengal or Bongo or Bangla. Unfortunately we do not have actually much detail on the etymology. Lets suppose the etymology of Bengal had ten theories. In that case, the article Bengal could have had all ten theories mentioned, while West Bengal article could have had two-three major theories stated, and the mention that the etymology is disputed with multiple theories.
However with only one major etymological theory of Bengal, that needs to be there in West Bengal article. Even though Bengal article exists, West Bengal is a stand-alone article which needs to be as comprehensive as possible, within the limitation of WP:SS. Indeed the etymology section here is not very large. Explanation of Bengal, and the explanation "why west" are fitting together nicely.--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:57, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello Dwaipayan, please check with my latest edit, I have related your values and values together and made the content richer, Please let me know further, if you liked it or not, Thank you. Regards. বিজয় চক্রবর্তী (Bijoy Chokroborti) 04:47, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Fix link for St. Paul's Cathedral

The link for the image under the subheading "Demographics" for St. Paul's Cathedral links to the wrong page.

The correct page link should be: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Paul's_Cathedral,_Kolkata

The current, incorrect page link is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Paul%27s_Cathedral — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2620:114:2000:6:7C54:C493:15DB:6F6B (talk) 02:23, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out the error. It has been corrected. Amartyabag TALK2ME 11:59, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 May 2015

Kazi Nazrul Islam International Airport is being developed by Bengal Aerotropolis Projects Ltd. in the city of Durgapur in Bardhaman district. The above information is not correct (see the Kazi Nazrul Islam Airport page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazi_Nazrul_Islam_Airport). The more appropriate one is given below:

Kazi Nazrul Islam Airport is developed by Bengal Aerotropolis Project Ltd. at is located at Andal, Bardhaman in Durgapur sub-division, 25 km from Asansol and 15 km from Durgapur in West Bengal, India. The airport is a located between the twin cities of Asansol-Durgapur. Statelover (talk) 06:05, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

 Done I've corrected the location as your request and also added the first flight by the PM - Arjayay (talk) 08:19, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 June 2015

175.101.10.122 (talk) 18:26, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

| subdivision_type1 = Region | subdivision_name1 = Eastern India

Yes check.svg Done Stickee (talk) 02:22, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 July 2015

Please change "Recently Presidency College, Kolkata became a university named Presidency University" -X to Y -" Recently Presidency College, Kolkata became a university named Presidency University" and also Asansol received a new university named Kazi Nazrul University ref: http://www.knuedu.in/ and ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazi_Nazrul_University 

122.176.65.144 (talk) 13:19, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Cannolis (talk) 21:17, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 July 2015

updated religious demographics

223.223.147.189 (talk) 09:19, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not requested a specific change in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
More importantly, you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 11:10, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 24 July 2016

DasAritra (talk) 17:57, 24 July 2016 (UTC) Certain information in the page are extremely derogatory and motivated to show in bad light and needs to revised

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Featured article review

This article no longer meets the featured article criteria. It is suffused with unsourced weasel words like "prominent", "prefer", "major", "well-known", "rare", "finest", "dominated", etc. and requires extensive copyediting. On just a quick scan, I can see spaces missing after punctuation, use of ampersands in flowing text, and short stubby paragraphs. DrKay (talk) 18:48, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Name of State Changed

Hi! The state assembly changed the name of the state from West Bengal to "Bengal" in English. Kindly reflect the same. Below is the link too [1]

115.113.220.51 (talk) 09:54, 29 August 2016 (UTC)Chinmay Sahoo

Not done it has NOT changed the name of the state, it has adopted a resolution to re-christen the state, but the new names "require a Constitutional amendment to effect the change."
We will wait until the constitutional amendment is passed - which could be some time. - Arjayay (talk) 15:19, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
And even then, we have to wait until it becomes the common name in English to rename the article. - BilCat (talk) 15:43, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 October 2016


I send a picture 117.194.13.171 (talk) 16:20, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

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Dhulagarh riots

Hi guys where is the article on Dhulagarh riots? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.53.96.101 (talk) 15:41, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

I did a search and I don't think we have an article on that. —MRD2014 (talkcontribs) 15:43, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

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Gorkhaland

Hi community, not seeing any reference to the ongoing troubles in the Darjeeling districts, where the local Nepalis are fighting for an independent state of Gorkhaland... Should this be added somewhere?

Akodi (talk) 06:52, 9 July 2017 (UTC)Akodi