Talk:Western Christianity

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to navigation Jump to search
WikiProject Christianity (Rated Start-class, High-importance)
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Christianity, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Christianity on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
Start-Class article Start  This article has been rated as Start-Class on the project's quality scale.
 High  This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
WikiProject Religion (Rated Start-class)
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Religion, a project to improve Wikipedia's articles on Religion-related subjects. Please participate by editing the article, and help us assess and improve articles to good and 1.0 standards, or visit the wikiproject page for more details.
Start-Class article Start  This article has been rated as Start-Class on the project's quality scale.
 ???  This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

In Desperate Need of Information[edit]

Compared to the Eastern Christianity article, this one needs a lot of work. Perhaps someone with more knowledge on the religions could follow the Eastern Christianity's format and at least make the article in equal size to the Christianity Template? I think several of the paragraphs on the "Eastern Christianity" could almost be copied onto this one, with just a little rewording. For example:

The Eastern churches' differences from Western Christianity has as much to do with culture, language, and politics as theology. For the non-Catholic Eastern churches, a definitive date for the commencement of schism cannot be given (see East-West Schism), although conventionally, it is often stated that the Assyrian Church of the East became estranged from the church of the Roman Empire in the years following the Council of Ephesus (431), Oriental Orthodoxy separated after the Council of Chalcedon (451), and the split between the Church of Rome and the Orthodox Church is usually dated to 1054 (often referred to as the Great Schism).

So if somebody has the time and better knowledge of the workings between the Western Churches, could they consider expanding the article? IrishPearl 20:54, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Added some more information, but a lot more is still needed and someone should go over to check what I did add. If I have more time, I'll try to research and put more detailed information in, but this was all I could do for now. IrishPearl 21:37, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Western Christianity and the Western Hemisphere[edit]

I think the opening section needs to be revised due to confusing phrasing. Western Christianity is not something that is inherently "Western European" or belonging to the Western Hemisphere. Western Christianity actually developed in the Eastern Hemisphere and all the countries of Central Europe also practice these religions.

New Graphic - Survey[edit]

I have set up a survey on the new graphic at the Schism talk page; I didn't then realize it was being used on other pages. It is probably sensible to centalize discussion - the Survey is here Johnbod 03:55, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

high-importance stub[edit]

This page does need a lot of work, and here I go. Leadwind (talk) 18:59, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Science, multiple others[edit]

How do you explain them not being a part of Western Christianity. I'm curious.Ernio48 (talk) 23:18, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Your POV is not verifiable. There are no RSs for the term "Western Christianity" being used in that way. tahc chat 23:22, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
Could be. But it is against pure logic.Ernio48 (talk) 16:51, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
The logic used is that Christianity is, at its heart, Trinitarian. Groups that deny the Holy Trinity in some way are considered so far outside the boundaries of standard Christian doctrine so as to not be Christian anymore. That includes the groups you mentioned. However, I'm not sure why this is an issue for you. Wikipedia does not exclude these groups from the big tent of Christianity and permits them to self-identify. They are present in the "Christianity" navbox at the bottom of this very article. And they are not explicitly excluded by the definitions in the article. So why has it even come up? Elizium23 (talk) 18:23, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Western Rite Orthodoxy?[edit]

In the last two months, two different editors added Western Rite Orthodoxy to the introduction. So, clearly, this is an issue that needs to be discussed. Should Western Rite Orthodoxy really be mentioned here? I am strongly inclined to say no, for the following reasons:

  • Western Rite Orthodoxy is an extremely small movement. No statistics on membership are available, but the relevant article indicates that its size is measured on the order of perhaps a hundred parishes worldwide. It is certainly far smaller than Eastern Catholicism, or any medium-sized Protestant denomination. Therefore, if we're not even mentioning Anglicanism or Lutheranism by name in the introduction, it seems highly inappropriate (undue weight) to mention this much smaller movement.
  • Are there any sources that talk about Western Christianity and actually mention Western Rite Orthodoxy? As far as I know, there are not. So it's probably original research for us to just decide that Western Rite Orthodoxy belongs with Western Christianity. Frankly I suspect that it's too small for anyone to have bothered to categorize it.

I also want to make a more general point: We shouldn't just assume that the difference between "Western" and "Eastern" Christianity is purely liturgical, so that any church using a Latin rite is automatically "Western" and any church using a Byzantine/Syriac/Coptic/etc. rite is automatically "Eastern". Bear in mind that a large minority of Western Christianity is composed of low-church Protestantism that doesn't have any liturgy at all. So the difference between "Western" and "Eastern" Christianity obviously cannot be just a matter of liturgy alone. Ohff (talk) 16:45, 3 May 2017 (UTC)