Talk:William Rufus Shafter

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Citation is for first battle of fair oaks[edit]

Medal of Honor citation states that Shafter was engaged in the first Battle of Fair Oaks, not the second. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:55, 30 August 2016 (UTC)


This article talks almost nothing about Shafter's military career. -- Toytoy 04:09, Aug 14, 2004 (UTC)


Shafter is a major historical figure, US Army major General and winner of the Medal of Honor. A 'Bacon number of 8' seems to trivialize his accomplishments, especially since a number of 8 is not notable.

Are we to list 'Bacon numbers' of all people who ever appeared in a film?
This information could appear in an article about Bacon numbers, but seems out of place here, IMO.

Econrad 21:14, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

"especially since a number of 8 is not notable." - Eight was notable. Of the hundreds-of-thousands of people who have appeared in films, William Rufus Shafter's Bacon Number placed him among the .01% most distant. However, a recent addition of a movie lowered that number to seven.

This article claims that William Rufus Shafter has the highest known Bacon Number. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MRittman (talkcontribs) 20:47, 30 May 2013 (UTC) 20:23, 30 May 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MRittman (talkcontribs)

Film notes[edit]

I decided to be bold and removed the list of movies constituting a 'Bacon Number' of 10. The list is now incorrect, and trivial in nature (IMO). I left a short explanation on why

If the info on the 'Rufus Shafter number' is important, I feel it should be put in it's own article, Rufus Shafter number, and not here.

I'm also going to add information on Shafter's army exploits during the Civil War, Indian Wars, and Spanish-American wars.

Feeback on this is welcome.

Econrad 23:02, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Henry Ossian Flipper[edit]

I think the Flipper court martial, which was clearly undertaken due to Shafter's racial prejudice, should have its own section as it underplayed in this article

Shafter, Texas (1884) is named after Colonel Shafter. It is located some eighteen miles north of Presido on U.S. Highway 67, at the east end of the Chinati Mountains. John W. Spencer found silver ore there and took it to Fort Davis to be assayed. It was determined to be worth $45 per ton. In October 1880 Shafter and two officers who later sat on on Flipper's court-martial began buying land around the Spencer claim. They were unable to buy several sections of lands because they lacked capital. In late June 1882 they organized "Presidio Mining Company" and the remaining sections were bought. Allegations of where Shafter got the money from over the next year were squashed. No investigation was ever conducted. Colonel Shafter continued his career until he retired in 1900 as a Major General of Volunteers.