Talk:William the Conqueror

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    • Why? - those charts are ugly and take up an obscene amount of space to convey information. (talk) 22:24, 11 June 2016 (UTC)


Walther, which Walther?[edit]

Hello. In the article, at the "Duke of Normandy" section, there is the following sentence: "It was said that Walter, William's maternal uncle (...)", but it is not said who is this Walter. I read the article and the only person I met was Walter Giffard, Lord of Longueville, but your article is said that Walter Giffard "is the cousin of William the Conqueror". What is right? Walter is an uncle or cousin of William the Conqueror? Who is this Walter? --Zoldyick (talk) 19:31, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Illegitimate children?[edit]

The article claims that there's no evidence of illegitimate children, but Dugdale volume I, p.436 states that William had an illegitimate son, called William Peverell, by the daughter of Ingelric of London. 2001:14BB:140:18EF:D1C9:8597:B2DF:16BE (talk) 16:33, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

You are aware that William Dugdale is a bit outdated, considering he died in 1686. No modern biographer or genealogist considers this a credible claim. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:40, 14 September 2016 (UTC)


MOS:IMGLOC advises to "avoid sandwiching text between two images that face each other, or between an image and infobox, navigation template, or similar." The large charts on this page were sandwiching and interrupting text, so I adjusted the format to produce this layout, with the text clear of the charts, and spreading the images more evenly, per WP:LAYIM. Those changes have now been reverted, such that (on a large monitor) the first chart squeezes text down to some lines with only one or two words; the second chart is placed literally in the middle of a sentence, such that we see the first three words, then the chart, then the sentence continues. Please explain how this is preferable to my version, where the text was unperturbed and not squeezed down to one and two word lines. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 13:46, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

We're never going to get text unsandwiched, though. It's impossible to actually account for every monitor setup. I moved the charts to the top of the sections so that they no longer left large chunks of white space at the end. The charts look very odd on the left. And the images were weighted towards the right, I tried to stagger them more so that they were evenly spread out between left and right aligned. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:07, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
My layout did achieve unsandwiched text, and the charts look better on the left than in the middle of a sentence, or where the text becomes squeezed to single-word lines. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 14:25, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
But it produced a huge amount of white space on my screen, which looked just godawful. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:33, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Scaling the sizes back to 550 and 600 alleviates the problem on a large monitor, but may be too small on laptop monitors. Making the charts a bit larger also resolves the issue on a large monitor, and looks OK on my laptop. Please see this example at 750px and see if it looks acceptable on other monitors. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 23:48, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Looked much better - I went ahead and went with 750px for both charts. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:21, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. I'm moving one image up a paragraph because it is extending into the following section. Appears to work well on both my monitors. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 14:23, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
Looks fine on my setup - and I opened it up in a new window and resized it to various sizes and it still worked well enough. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:44, 15 October 2016 (UTC)