Talk:Willie Nelson

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Edit request on 1 May 2013[edit]

I think the April 29 birthday at top of article and in bio box is incorrect and should be changed to April 30. This change would conform with information on official Willie Nelson website and from Rolling Stone Thanks for you help with this. CopyCustodian (talk) 02:18, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Since this was just changed a few hours ago it's pretty clear that there's some disagreement here and this is not ripe for an edit request. Also, it looks to me like you're right on the verge of being auto-confirmed yourself, which means you'll shortly be able to edit the page yourself (if you're not already). --ElHef (Meep?) 05:00, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

April 29th or April 30th?[edit]

Since a good amount of discussion went on with the real birthdate of Nelson, I feel that we have to address the situation to reach a mutual consensus. Recently an user raised the issue that Nelson's birthdate (propelled most likely by the recent attention that the article received because of his 80th birthday) was the 30th and not the 29th. The article used the date of the 30th until yesterday. Since the issue had been raised throughout the last years a couple of times, and it will come up again at some point, I decided to use April 29th. As another user pointed out on an edit request above, a lot of reliable sources point his birthdate to April 30th, as also does his website. On the other hand, reliable sources also point out that his birthday is the 29th (The Facts of Life: and Other Dirty Jokes and Roll Me Up and Smoke Me When I Die, written by Nelson).

The answer to the question is also detailed in a number of reliable sources, the one used on the article is the book by Joe Nick Patoski, Willie Nelson: An Epic Life. An excerpt of page 13: "He came two years later a few minutes before midnight, during the last hour of April 29, 1933. Doc Simms, who delivered both Nelson children at his home, recorded the boy's birth on the first hour of April 30."

Now, since the subject of the article also says that he was born on April 29, and the source indicates that he was born on the 29th, I considered it was enough to change it and avoid further controversy. His birth was recorded by the doctor on the 30th, and it is the official date that the state of Texas recognizes as his real birthdate. It doesn't change though the fact that he was born on the last minutes of April 29, 1933, making the 29th his actual birthday and the 30th an official state record.

Thoughts?--GDuwenTell me! 14:27, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Agree with 29th - Just the facts, ma'am. We've got multiple sources explaining the discrepancy, so all things being equal I agree with your reasoning and prefer to list the factually correct information, regardless of what the government record has to say. That said, it's definitely necessary to explain the discrepancy within the article (which you did). (tldr: What GDuwen said.) --ElHef (Meep?) 22:13, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 18 July 2013[edit]

PBS: American Masters

  • This is not an AD*

American Masters (talk) 16:04, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. It's not an ad, no, but it is a relatively short piece based on an 11-year-old interview, and I suspect it easily meets criterion 1 of the guideline on links to avoid. If you disagree, please explain why and let's determine if there's consensus to add the link. Rivertorch (talk) 18:05, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Edit to change "participed of" to "'he participated"[edit]

Please see subheading "Activism".

Under the 3rd paragraph, it says "In 2001, following the September 11 attacks, he participed of the benefit telethon America: A Tribute to Heroes"

Please change to ""In 2001, following the September 11 attacks, he participated in the benefit telethon America: A Tribute to Heroes"

Thank you! Kironcmukherjee (talk) 23:37, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Done with thanks, NiciVampireHeart 23:50, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Date of Birth incorrect[edit]

His date of birth is 30th April 1933.

References [1] [2] [3]

References (talk) 11:07, 30 April 2014 (UTC)Alexa Wignall

It's been discussed above, check out this link.--GDuwenTell me! 23:32, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 November 2014[edit]

the personal life, about a self sustaining community is 100% not true, i live here on maui

at best you could say he produces more power than he needs, which goes back to maui electric community

they might grow some of their own food, but theyre seen at the grocery stores Jhmaui (talk) 04:07, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

this was featured on the front page of reddit today

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 12:53, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Minor spelling edit[edit]

My proposed change is a minor spelling edit. In the sentence "Throughout his 1975 tour, Nelson raised founds for PBS-affiliated stations across the south promoting Austin City Limits.", the word founds should read funds.

Dhpierre (talk) 21:58, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 June 2015[edit]

He is included among Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers.[1]


  1. ^ "100 Greatest Singers of All Time". Rolling Stone. Retrieved June 10, 2015. 

WikiMusicAuthority (talk) 19:52, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: I'm not seeing his name on the list... am I missing him? Or perhaps you could find another reliable source that says he's on the list? Kharkiv07 (T) 19:58, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Willie and PriceWaterhouse[edit]

I removed an unsourced statement that it was "discovered" that the PriceWaterhouse accounting firm had not "paid" Nelson's taxes for years. I don't see any reliable source that says that this was the problem. The problem was that PriceWaterhouse allegedly induced Nelson to invest in tax shelters that were not legal -- thus causing Nelson to understate and underpay his tax liabilities.

It is certainly possible that Nelson may have ALSO hired the accounting firm to handle the actual payment of his taxes on his behalf -- but normally that's not something that most people hire an outside accounting firm to handle. If we find some reliable source that says that PriceWaterhouse had actually been hired to handle that for Nelson, the verbiage could be added back to the article. Famspear (talk) 21:05, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

PS: Considering the amount of money that Nelson was making, it's entirely possible that he might have hired an outside accounting firm to handle making his tax payments for him. We just don't want to assume that this was the case here, without some reliable source. Famspear (talk) 21:07, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
That's right, PriceWaterhouse advised him to put his money on a tax shelter which wound up going to hell and caused him to owe the IRS a bunch of money. To that you can add Neil Reshen not paying his taxes since the mid-1970s and that makes one hell of a debt cocktail. I'll make sure to get all the facts right and put it down in the article. It's important stuff and I didn't really payed any mind to it when I first wrote about it.--GDuwenTell me! 18:01, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Expanded, I guess the explanation is now sufficient. I also mentioned above that Willie fired Reshen in the late 70s because of the tax thing and hired Mark Rothbaum instead. Rothbaum has been instrumental in arranging big deals for Willie in later years.--GDuwenTell me! 19:38, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Hoax going around that he's dead[edit]

Be alert.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 23:40, 23 August 2015 (UTC)


I noticed a bunch of cites like this:

*{{vcite news|author=Amter, Charlie|url=...|ref={{sfnRef|Amter, Charlie|2011}}}}

It doesn't need to be that complicated! This will get you there.

*{{vcite news|last=Amter |first=Charlie|url=...|ref=harv}}

I also replaced all the google books links with corresponding templates that are nice and clean and without all off the googlecruft. Way to go on putting links in for page numbers, editors! Lfstevens (talk) 01:53, 23 October 2015 (UTC)


There's some missing text under Personal section ... look for iolence — Preceding unsigned comment added by GramEdit (talkcontribs) 16:48, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Actually, Willie Nelson is born April 30, not April 29. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WillieNelsonNelson (talkcontribs) 23:54, 25 October 2015 (UTC)