Talk:Wiman Joseon

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The Bare Facts of the Only Historical Account of Wiman[edit]

The Records of the Grand Historian is the only extant contemporary account of the founding of Wiman's Joseon state. I'm afraid there is no mention of any powerful kingdom of Gojoseon he destroyed and replaced. Any other material regarding this period of Korean history comes from documents which were written hundreds of years later, and therefore cannot be authenticated. Archaeological searches have also not made any discoveries of fabulous lost civilizations. Thus this is the only verifiable account we have. The following is a passage taken from the Records of the Grand Historian from Wikipedia's entry on Wiman / Wei Man :

(Wei Man, known as Wiman in Korean, was a man from the State of Yan of China who established a kingdom in north-western Korea in the 2nd century BC. He was the first figure in the history of Korea to have been recorded in documents from the same time period. The Records of the Grand Historian simply calls him Man, so the surname Wei was probably added later.)

Man served Prince Lu Wan of the Yan Principality. Although Lu Wan was an old ally of the Han Emperor Gao, he was eventually suspected of rebellion and attacked. Lu Wan sought refuge with the Xiongnu in 195 B.C, while Man fled to the east.

According to the Records of the Grand Historian, Man led 1,000 men, dressed in non-Chinese costume and crossed the border river of Paesu/Peishui (浿水; probably Chŏngchŏn River). Based on the upper and lower fortresses of the former Qin Dynasty, he organized the natives named the Jinbeon/Zhenfen and the Joseon and Chinese refugees from Yan and Qi, and came to the crown. Man's capital was named Wanggeom/Wangxian (王險, generally identified as P'yŏngyang).[1] Since the Han Empire was not completely stabilized yet, the Governor of Liaodong appointed Man as an outer subject, provided that he did not prevent natives going up to the empire. The appointment is dated at 191 or 192 BCE.[2] With the support of the Han Empire, he expanded his territory by conquering many small towns. His kingdom was eventually conquered by Emperor Wu in 108 B.C during the reign of his grandson Ugeo.Wayne Leigh (talk) 02:24, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


Talk:State of Nangnang[edit]

See Talk:State of Nangnang for discussion. -- ran (talk) 18:29, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Hairwizard91, please do not include fabricated stories into this article and into State of Nangnang. Your are in violation of WP:OR.
Byeonjoseon is an imaginary nation; see Talk:Three Gojoseon.--Endroit 09:59, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
It is fixed as Gojoseon. Gojoseon is not fabricated. If you think, please give me the citation or references so that my article is proved to be fabricated. I have references for all article, but you do not have. --Hairwizard91 10:26, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

More Info[edit]

http://byeongjupark.wordpress.com/article/gojoseon-2zvfgrgyend5c-5/ a good article with more information to add to your topic.(Armorbeast (talk) 05:18, 23 April 2012 (UTC))