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Why Is There No Audio Sample

Can someone please answer that? It dont make sense, there can be one for Hannah Montana but not Brit? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.130.235.223 (talk) 23:52, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

We like Hannah Montana more. On a serious note, yeah I suppose the article could do with a sample. — R2 00:04, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Year End Chart

In America it was ranked #80. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.10.116 (talk) 14:06, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Status in Usa

"Womanizer" has been certified Platinum by RIAA!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.18.66.24 (talk) 13:10, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Carts Section

Whoever Keeps on deleting the chart info about it being number one on the Billboard Hot Digital Songs Chart needs to please stop because it is verifed with a refrence straight from billboard.com.

Charts section needs to be fixed

The Pop 100 portion says that the song has reached #1 even though it only reached #2. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.62.181.157 (talk) 19:59, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Redirect

I have added all the information available for the song. Should we redirect it to Circus (Britney Spears album) for now and restore it when more information is available? TheLeftorium 14:23, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I think that might be a good idea. This can be recreated once it charts. Cliff smith talk 17:34, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Others Charts

America's Music Charts Top 40 = #46(lw) to #27(tw) Canada Top 40 = #45(lw) to #19(tw) Canada Hot AC = #36(NEW) Reference:http://www.americasmusiccharts.com/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Britneyboy7 (talkcontribs) 05:41, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

it debuted on the billboard hot 100 without being released digitally because the charts are all done sunday and released thursday and the digital downloading for womanizer started monday —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.139.93.185 (talk) 12:45, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Other information

Do not post stuff about a music video or anything else unless it is confirmed, especially when you source yourself and all the sources you're using for this article take you to an article regarding Britney's last album. It's pointless, why waste your time? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.234.15.99 (talk) 01:01, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

The single cover that is on this page is a fan made cover. It is NOT the offical cover. It really ought to be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.104.132.205 (talk) 06:42, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Even the radio releases info is too fancrufty. --Efe (talk) 11:55, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Jive Records stated to Access Hollywood that the rumors of Womanizer being released on the 29th are UNTRUE and that they have NOT set a new release date yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.234.1.38 (talk) 03:46, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


Not going to be released on September 29, 2008........ A new release date has not been revealed............[1]


Sinceseems (talk) 10:19, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Video section

I removed a section on the music video that was entirely sourced to this image: [2]. Not sure if the sourcing was a mistake? But it wouldn't, being an image, be a reliable source. I'm not sure about fadedyouthblog, although the name itself makes me wonder per WP:SPS. Perhaps this blog qualifies, if it has text content to support the information. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 10:51, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely not a reliable source, particularly being an image with no text. We don't do "breaking news", we wait for sources with some authority to report it, even if that takes a bit of waiting. Good call. — Realist2 14:01, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

The mobile phone in the video is not an iPhone lol. I was told it was the upcoming Nokia touchscreen phone called the Xpress Music. While I don't know that for sure, it is definitely not an iPhone lol Roosters93 (talk) 06:50, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

the video promotes the new nokia touch phone in two different scenes

Single Cover

The photo of her face is from the Onyx Hotel Tour and her "body" is actually Tyra Banks. She was photoshopped on by a fan.

http://www.superficialdiva.com/2008/0924/britney-spears-womanizer-promotional-photo-is-fake/

Harry** (talk) 14:50, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Let's just remove all cover work put up until sony BMG releases the official artwork. Ogioh (talk) 20:12, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
I agree. Charmed36 (talk) 20:41, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Is the that cover official? --Efe (talk) 08:34, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
If it can't be confirmed through a reliable source as the record company-issued cover, it can and should be removed from the article. Gwen Gale (talk) 09:07, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Since this source is under the britney.com domain, it seems reliable enough for the artwork of a Spears project. Gwen Gale (talk) 11:18, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Itunes on Oct. 7

check the source its when it hits iTunes http://www.britney.com/blog/womanizer-itunes.Ogioh (talk) 23:11, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Fan site and a blog in one, gross. — Realist2 23:18, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Britney's official site, and the same blog that all the other official information is released as you can clearly se below it. Ogioh (talk) 23:28, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
It's a blog on a forum, wait for billboard to report it. — Realist2 23:30, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
That "blog" is way more reliable than Billboard. The info comes straight from Jive. Superpop (talk) 23:40, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
No really it's not. :-) — Realist2 23:41, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Thats her official site though... Anything posted by BRITanica is straight from Jive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.52.54.146 (talk) 20:13, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


I can vouch for the above, Britney.com is run by JIVE. The site is given a blog format to engage fans. It is 100% official though and is the labels site for Spears, unlike www.britneyspears.com, which is Spears' own run site run in association with Jive. User:mikepepsi —Preceding undated comment was added at 21:13, 28 September 2008 (UTC).

Another Review

There's a new review by Reuters[3] and it says the song is catchy and all that.

Just thought that should be added to the review section..I am not really good with this so I was hoping one of you could do it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ikkomuitnederland (talkcontribs) 12:13, 27 September 2008 (UTC) Ikkomuitnederland (talk) 14:59, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Will do Ogioh (talk) 21:12, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Actually its not a great source, it little info i wouldn't use any of it in the article. Ogioh (talk) 21:14, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Reviews stronger than page identifies

I have seen quite a few positive reviews for this song in newspapers and online already, so not sure why its' recieving a "mixed" review status on the basis of one positive and one negative review cited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikepepsi (talkcontribs) 21:07, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes it actualy been very positive. I'l put the positive info in the article asap. OgiBeaR (talk) 22:36, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

How does one article comparing the single to Rachel Stevens' "Some Girls" amount to the single being "widely" criticised in the UK —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.139.86.249 (talk) 17:20, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Cover for the Single

Is the single picture posted in the article the real cover work for the single? Well I suppose the single's cover art should contain Britney's picture. Frankly, the before picture was far better, even though it is morphed. It had a Circus theme to it.:) --"Legolas" (talk) 11:23, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

This is official 200px0

That cover is fake. It looks like fan photo shop. Charmed36 (talk) 05:42, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

yeah i agree, the britney promo picture behind the words is used for the album In The Zone, so most likely a fan photoshopped photo —Preceding unsigned comment added by Christopheraymond (talkcontribs) 06:15, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Music video premiere

I've added info that the video will premiere on 20/20 on October 10th... Wasn't sure how to word it.. so if anyone can word it better, feel free to do so. Source: http://abcnews.go.com/2020/CelebrityCafe/wireStory?id=5951582

There is redundancy in the section, the show and time only need to be stated once.72.220.173.73 (talk) 01:03, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Song Reception

There is only one bad review on the article. This has been stated before the reception stays as MOSTLY POSITIVE. This has been said before, editors shouldn't be wasting time reverting edits that change the reception because of somebody who doesn't like britney or maybe just doesn't know the way wiki works. Please refrain form changing the reception status, it's stupid, and i will revert it as soon as i see it Ogioh (talk) 15:53, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Careful, your comment may be interpreted as an attempt at owning the article. The source currently provided indicates "mixed," per the second sentence of that article. Therefore - for Wikipedia purposes - "mixed" is the proper word. --Winger84 (talk) 20:28, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Are you blind Ogioh? There are five negative reviews compared to four positive. You be the judge. Rvk41 (talk) 18:48, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Itunes info?

Who removed all the info regarding how it shot up the itunes charts, its significant, it could of done with a tidy-up and maybe but under a subheading 'Download success' or something like that. But not all of it needed removed. And the airplay success section should be brought back. I smashed a lot of records in many countries.Ogioh (talk) 16:01, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

JUST HIT #1 ON CANADIAN iTUNES —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.139.93.185 (talk) 18:25, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Irish Radio station

It debuted yesterday(6th October) at No. 11 on Spin 103.8, it's an irish radio station in dublin. Could this be added into the article? Here's a link http://www.spin1038.com/zoocrew —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.100.221.196 (talk) 16:41, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

the toxic guy!

I can't edit this in cause the page is protected from IP edits, but can someone please edit in that the large guy with glasses from the Toxic music video is also in the Womanizer video in the office scene with the coffee! -24.92.46.22 (talk) 04:15, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Who is that guy anyway? Anybody know and would like to share? - Bell'Orso (talk) 12:51, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

its just some inside-joke guy thing

Music Video Image

I think there should be another picture used to show Spears in the music video for the song. The current image is just a picture that was taken on the set, and isn't actually from the music video (though it is an outfit she wears in the video, it's not really a picture of the actual music video, just a pic from the set). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.234.15.99 (talk) 22:39, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

The 'Womanizer'

The guy that plays the 'womanizer' in the video is Brandon Stoughton, who's also a model. Could someone add this in?

I TRIED TO ADD THIS BUT IT LOOKS A BIT MESSY =/ COULD SOMEONE PLEASE MAKE IT LOOK A BIT BETTER...SORRY ABOUT CAPS XX —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toxicbomb2004 (talkcontribs) 12:20, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Misleading Claims

I removed a claim that the song being number 2 in the UK airplay charts is 'denoting that the single is going to be a success on the British charts when it comes out.' This is clearly out of the remit of a factual encyclopedia. Let's just wait and see how it performs in the UK charts before we start to comment on that. It is certainly impressive that it is number 2 in the airplay charts, but this does not mean it will sell well on release, so commenting on this is premature. --MJ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.170.132.23 (talk) 18:59, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Blatantly incorrect quotes/reviews and unreferenced Critical Response section

If you add a review or quote from a magazine/online article please make sure it is a DIRECT WORD-FOR-WORD QUOTE. Anything else is just blatant marketing/promotion for the single, and false information, which does NOT belong in a factual encyclopedia and against NPOV wiki policy. I've had to remove and edit many of the quotes in the "Critical Response" section as the links led to articles with no mention of the quoted sentence. Please can editors keep a close eye on this section and check any over-the-top reviews for authenticity. The bad grammar/spelling is also sometimes a dead giveaway. Thanks. Feudonym (talk) 00:55, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

I had a fealing most of those negative reviews were phony, il watch it like a hawk Ogioh (talk) 12:30, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, but I actually found that most of the positive reviews were the phony ones.Feudonym (talk) 20:39, 16 October 2008 (UTC)


Oh i know, fans of britney can be as annoying as the haters dometimes. Though have the negative reviews seemed to be coming from uncreditable sources , if they had any. Ogioh (talk) 16:08, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Chilean Charts

"Womanizer" is at number 19 in the Chilean Singles Chart... can you add it to the article, please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.20.141.122 (talk) 01:42, 18 October 2008 (UTC)


Audio Sample

Does Someone have an Audio Sample to put on this article? I'm surprised know one has yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moairguard (talkcontribs) 21:15, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Womanizer in Poland

http://www.pltop50.glt.pl/ Womanizer is number 6 on Bubbling Under Top 50 (56 position) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kamileczek01 (talkcontribs) 17:52, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Nipple Slip.

My addition of the nipple slip information was removed, when it is clearly 1) visible 2) controversial and therefore notable and 3) no less relevant than any of the other information here. If you have doubts about its authenticity, watch the video yourself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oafah (talkcontribs) 23:11, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Its clearly a lilac bra and such things are not suitable for putting in the articles. Looking at this talk page I think im the only regular contributer to wiki working on this article. The amount of fans adding rubbish is senseless Ogioh (talk) 16:52, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

3e4r5t (talk) 05:19, 22 October 2008 (UTC)Single Cover Wrong3e4r5t (talk) 05:19, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

3e4r5t (talk) 05:19, 22 October 2008 (UTC)This single cover is for countries outside the US. The iTunes Cover Is The US verion. The cover with her face should be put as an alternative cover.3e4r5t (talk) 05:19, 22 October 2008 (UTC) Source: http://www.britney.com/blog/womanizer-cd-cover 3e4r5t (talk) 05:19, 22 October 2008 (UTC){{{{{}}}}}


as this si the cover with britney on the cover it should be used at the top of the page. the one without britney regardless of wether its the american cover should be used as the alternative because this is not just an american page its the english speaking laguage i.e oriiginating from britain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toxicbomb2004 (talkcontribs) 08:22, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

music video

why was the link to her official music video removed? it's allowed according to the rules since it's her official channel 71.240.184.249 (talk) 02:54, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Please get a new image

The three pictures being used to showcase the music video for Womanizer are pictures taken on the set of the video, not actual stills from the finished product. Especially seeing as two of the pictures used (the one of Britney with the blonde hair and the one of Britney in the secretary getup) clearly show the green screen in the background. These pictures, though they do showcase the video in an aspect, are not complementary to the finished product of the music video for Womanizer and therefore should be removed and replaced with actual stills from the music video that do not include shots of the green screen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.234.15.99 (talk) 18:51, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

No'1 In Israel. link : http://www.mediaforest.biz/default.aspx —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nadmp3 (talkcontribs) 20:54, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Semi protected

The article has been protected for 7 days due to persistent inclusions of poorly sourced info and the additions of WP:BADCHARTS despite multiple warnings being issued to editors. — Realist2 16:36, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Added European Promo section

I added a European Promotional Tour section underneath the Promotion header. I also added references for Star Academy performance in France as well as references for the X factor performance in the UK. --Jak3m (talk) 21:00, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Critical response

The "critical response" content I removed was from non-notable/non-professional sources (e.g., National Ledger will publish most any submission) except for the Cosmo Girl editor's comment. That was not referenced from a reliable source and I could not find one that backed it up. The bottom line is that just because someone somewhere wrote something about the song, that doesn't mean it needs to be in the article. Especially when there is no shortage of reviews from reliable professional sources. The removed content was padding at the very least, and spam at the worst (included to promote otherwise non-notable websites). —Hello, Control Hello, Tony 14:24, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree most the sources are weak, maybe the yahoo music one is passable, still not great. — Realist2 14:36, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
So will you revert? —Hello, Control Hello, Tony 14:53, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Yeah sure, just double checking we were on the same wavelength, consensus as they do say. Clearly we have some now. — Realist2 14:58, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Remixes/Official versions...

What happened to that section? Why was it deleted? Can somebody add it back? if not, can you just send me as a PM? Thanks... Sinnec (talk) 16:55, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure, I added the offical Remix EP that's being released next week as stated on Britney.com, Britneyspears.com and Amazon.com amongst many other sources, I clearly referenced britney.com, but it was deleted as "unreliable". Not really sure how much more official and reliable you can get than her record company! UKWiki (talk) 14:49, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Music Video Versions

Just wondering if it should be mentioned that there are two versions to the Womanizer video - original and directors cut. The original has digitally added extra steam to cover more of Spears body in the sauna scenes (thought more appropriate for television audiences!)Mc8755 (talk) 16:15, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

It probably fails the communities notability viewpoint. If you, or anyone for that matter, could find a good source that mentions it (no fan sites or blogs) then notability might be asserted and it could potentially be included. — Realist2 16:28, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Chart Peaks

Canada #1 Turkey #1 Brazil #1 Israel #1 Norway #1 US #1 Denmark #1 Sweden#1 Philippines #1 India #1 United World Chart #1 Finland #2 Ireland #2 Suitzerland #2 Belgium #3 Germany #4 UK #4 Austria #5 Australia #5 Italy #7 The Netherlands #21 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeroen65 (talkcontribs) 20:05, 10 December 2008 (UTC) New Zeland #9 Mexico #21 Netherlands #35 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thebattlecry (talkcontribs) 22:49, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, we still need reliable sources before we can add these to the article, if you can provide such sources I will happily help insert them for you. — Realist2 21:05, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

The song has been #1 2 weeks in a row on the United World Chart. http://www.mediatraffic.de/tracks.htm

LILLY ALLEN

is it worth mentioning that lilly allen has done a cover of this song? source, britney blackout, youtube and BBC, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBY27Lmgnf4&eurl=http://www.britneyspearsblackout.com/&feature=player_embedded —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.194.164.108 (talk) 10:29, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Japan Promo Tour

Should the HEY!HEY!HEY! performance be added?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.100.221.196 (talk) 21:27, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Apparent remake of Womanizer video

There's an article on Digital Spy claiming that Britney is planning a trip to India after meeting an Indian-born choreographer and is planning to re-shoot the video to "reflect the positive side of India". I don't want to write it in the article as it's been taken from a tabloid and doesn't seem to be confirmed anywhere else I've looked. Just giving a heads-up. :) londonsista Prod 05:26, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Wow, hope it's try, but obviously digitalspy is a bad source. Fingers crossed. — Realist2 05:28, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

I was watching VH1 top 20 countdowns, and they also claimed that the "word on the street" was that there was to be a remake of this video. I hope so, haha. BlueClerica (talk) 22:00, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Charts - need to be updated

Polish National Top 50 - "Womanizer" is #1!!! The source: http://euro200.net/Polish-Top50.htm Nattan,pl —Preceding undated comment was added at 22:50, 19 December 2008 (UTC).

Nope. That chart is listed on WP:BADCHARTS.—Kww(talk) 22:54, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Platinum

Why you don't understand that Womanizer is Platinum ( now double platinum) in the US??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.18.66.24 (talk) 16:28, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Because the RIAA certify albums, not Britney Spears nutty website. — Realist2 17:20, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Digital promo

Should be added to the release section.

  • Abe Clements Club 7:49
  • Abe Clements Radio 4:23
  • Benassi Club 6:16
  • Benassi Radio 4:00
  • Tonal Club 5:29
  • Tonal Radio 4:13
  • Mike Rizzo Club 8:39
  • Mike Rizzo Radio 3:50
  • Nevins Club 7:31
  • Nevins Radio 4:00
  • Nevins Instrumental 7:31
  • Junior's Tribal Electro Club 8:51
  • Kaskade Club 5:32

Additional unreleased (but comissioned) mixes

  • Mike Rizzo Funk Generation Dub Mix 7:34
  • Junior's Tribal Dub 9:01

BertrandJP90 (talk) 06:56, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

No they shouldn't. Unsourced trivia. — Realist2 15:35, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Lady gaga broke britneys 'most downloaded song in a week reocrd'

please update the section which claims that britney broke mariah careys record for most downloaded song by a female in a single week.. britney sold 286,000, lady Gaga now surpassed that number with 'just dance' selling 419,000 in the first week of january 2009... she's in second place after lil wayne's song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.215.112.134 (talk) 18:03, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

It's not most downloaded song by a female in a single week record, it's the biggest opening week by a female record and Britney still has the record.--Sakrileg (talk) 23:14, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

# 80

It was also ranked 80 on billboards top 100 year end songs for 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Womanizer.81 (talkcontribs) 03:05, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

gold in sweden

womanizer is gold in sweden but u hv to see week 8 and 9 of 2009

www.sverigetopplistan.se —Preceding unsigned comment added by Neptune1993 (talkcontribs) 09:45, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Music and structure

Who wrote that stupid section? I'm not against the idea to show this kind of information, but they're false here... Womanizer is written in C# minor, not in C minor. Britney's range actually goes from E3 (WHERE you from, how is it going, or GOT a clue, whatcha doing, or GETTin' more than just a re-up, etc.) to A5 (but I can't cause we don't, yoOOOou...). Any piano is a source! Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.14.190.226 (talk) 16:36, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

You were correct about the key, but the source gives the range as D3 to C#6. That is what we have to go with unless you can provide a more reliable source to indicate the other range. ~~ [ジャム][t - c] 16:46, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Can you really imagine Britney Spears singing a C#6???!! Only Mariah Carey does that! Ask anyone who knows music and he will agree with me.

Sorry, but personal experience isn't a valid source. Unless you can find another more reliable source (as I said), then it'll have to stay as that. ~~ [ジャム][t - c] 17:54, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok so I imagine you will listen to me if I tell you the source is not good. It's a partition for a pianist, not for a singer. The highest note from that piano partition is not necessarily the highest note Britney sings in the song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.71.243.231 (talk) 01:54, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

OK then, it probably doesn't make sense to have the piano range so I'll remove it. ~~ [ジャム][t - c] 07:51, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.68.213.234 (talk) 03:00, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

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