Talk:Women in journalism

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Whom to include?[edit]

It would be wise to formulate inclusion criteria for the list of Notable women in the history of journalism so that a universal standard can be applied to all future considerations of new additions to the list. Indeed, it's surprising the list hasn't already grown to mammoth dimensions. Meanwhile, I'm adding Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya and Israeli journalist Ayala Hasson-Nesher. Politkovskaya is notable both for her coverage of Russia's involvement in Chechnya and for the suspicious circumstances of her death. Hasson-Nesher is one of Israel's premier journalists and probably the top female journalist in the country today.—Biosketch (talk) 09:16, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

The criterion I've been using for Notability is — if she has an article in Wikipedia, by definition she must be notable. Another factor is — was she actually a journalist and not a "writer" or "essayist"? Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 15:30, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I was thinking more along the lines of women who've made an outstanding contribution to the field of journalism, which would be more difficult to articulate criteria around. As long as the list stays under control and uncontroversial, your criteria are fine by me. Also, I've gone ahead and tagged this article for inclusion in Wikipedia:WikiProject Journalism.—Biosketch (talk) 06:14, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Good points above! Sometimes we also have to consider the outlet. One interesting person to examine is Rachel Carson and her work Silent Spring. She was technically not a journalist although her book is considered one of the top 10 works of journalisml. The New Yorker serilaized it. Technically that makes her journalism, but she's not a professional journalist. DobryDamour01:28, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Can't agree that a book writer serialized in a newspaper is ipso facto a journalist. By definition (from the French jour — day,) a journalist deals with very short-term stuff, not the long-term plugging-away which occupies the time of one writing a book. Sincerely, your friend, GeorgeLouis (talk) 02:37, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I would not include Carson. Even though she did a work of journalism, she was not in any sense "in" journalism and media professions. Seems like a separate topic: "outstanding works of journalism by non-journalists", if you know what I mean. --Lquilter (talk) 13:22, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Unbelievable...[edit]

The list is outrageously biased towards American journalists. In fact, the article should almost be called "American Women in journalism and media professions" Only around 30% of Americans have passports - the article is a wonderful illustration of this parochial and quarantined attitude. Really - either change the name of Wikipedia to "The Free American Encyclopedia", or shape up. It's a big world out there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.176.177.93 (talk) 15:57, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

  • Anybody is welcome to add names. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 20:07, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
  • People add according to their expertise. When we notice that something has a particular bias, then we can add a relevant tag to try to get more participation. There used to be a systemic-bias template for international perspectives -- I'll try to dig it up if nobody else gets to it first. I might start here: Template:Systemic bias .... Lquilter (talk) 01:03, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
    • I added the globalize template to the first page. --Lquilter (talk) 18:27, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
    • Rather than complain about how biased the article (or Wikipedia) is, the IP should fix it and include journalists from around the world. See WP:FIXIT Meatsgains (talk) 18:11, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

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