Talk:Movies & TV (Microsoft service)

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Logo vs. computer icon[edit]

Cloudbound has recently replaced the computer icon of Xbox Video with its logo.

Unfortunately, the logo, apart from not being informative, was non-free. The computer icon is free and is on Commons. In such cases, Wikipedia explicitly bans the use of non-free content. But you might want to see a similar discussion in Xbox Music, where the logo and the computer icon are equally non-free. Fleet Command (talk) 23:53, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. The computer icon arguably is just as uninformative. Nevertheless, the icons serve their purpose in the articles well. Happy new year, Cloudbound (talk) 13:01, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi. I am not sure I agree with "The computer icon arguably is just as uninformative". Computer icons are the primary mean of visual identification of computer programs in Windows, especially since Windows 7. They are like a pictogram that have the same meaning as the name of the app.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 03:31, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Name change -> Movies & TV (Microsoft service)[edit]

A new name has officially been announced. --LyThienDao1984 (talk) 02:00, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Daylen (talk) 19:12, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Updated screnshot[edit]

Hi! Can a Windows Insider who has lots of music replace the XBOX Music screenshot. I only have a few songs in my library so most of my page is blank; as such, I don't think that my music library would make a good screenshot. Also, an official one from Microsoft would work.

Daylen (talk) 19:17, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Daylen.
You'd get better results if you make the request in the relevant article's talk page, Talk:Groove Music, not here. I can change it, but I'm just done changing the screenshot of this article and I'm dropping right now. So, if nobody did anything within the next few hours, I'll be at your service.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 19:52, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done It's updated now! Sorry about putting the message on this talk page, I have 42 tabs open and the tabs were right next to each other so when I got a new email notification and replied, I must of clicked on the wrong tab.
Daylen (talk) 22:02, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Move to Microsoft Movies & TV contested[edit]

Hello, everyone

And hello, Rob984; you should probably see this.

I contested the move from "Movies & TV (Microsoft service)" to "Microsoft Movies & TV" because it violated both WP:COMMONNAME and WP:NATDAB. Although I crave a suffix shorter than "(Microsoft service)", the name with the "Microsoft" prefix is not common. The "Microsoft"-less form is far more common. As a matter of fact, the app itself and the service itself does not use the prefix.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 09:46, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

P.S. Actually, Movies & TV is free for grab. Why not? Codename Lisa (talk) 09:47, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
Please see the sources I added:
Here is the equivalent page for Groove:
I don't have Windows 10, however from screenshots I notice the prefix "Microsoft" isn't used in Word, Excel, etc. Microsoft's apps don't seem to be prefixed in Windows 10.
I don't think Movies & TV is WP:PRECISE: "titles should be precise enough to unambiguously define the topical scope of the article, but no more precise than that."
I also think it is ambiguous, for example Google's service is called "Play Movies & TV".
And per WP:NATURALDIS: "If it exists, choose an alternative name that the subject is also commonly called in English reliable sources, albeit not as commonly as the preferred-but-ambiguous title". Natural disambiguation is prefered to parenthetical disambiguation: "Parenthetical disambiguation: Wikipedia's standard disambiguation technique when none of the other solutions lead to an optimal article title".
Rob984 (talk) 10:35, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
@Rob984: So, to sum it up, you are putting up an other stuff exists discussion? This type of discussion is the second most hated informal fallacy in Wikipedia.
I don't discuss irrelevant products; even though you seem to have ignored WP:COMMONNAME entirely. And as for precision, "Microsoft Movies & TV" is equally imprecise and false too; the app itself and the service itself do not have "Microsoft" in them. Frankly, any other external resource that uses an obscure name is unworthy of notice or bother. I strongly oppose going the length of forgery just to avoid a pair of parenthesis.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 16:30, 1 August 2015 (UTC)