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Update of population in Australia[edit]

Due to the protected edit of the page unable to update the data of Australian population.

Yazidis is the fastest growing religion in Australia according to ABS. The latest census(2021) has reported 4,123. Number of Yezidis increase 6,444% in Australia with 63 people in 2016. most live in NSW and Queensland due to a regional refugee settlement program.

Are we able to update that data and add that information. GassyTrucker (talk) 04:54, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PKK[edit]

“In modern times, Yazidis face persecution from the PKK and ISIS” and the source cited is a Turkish media outlet talking to a single person. They were the ones who saved the Yazidis from ISIS, the article provides 0 evidence whatsoever that they are actually “persecuting” them aside from saying “They’ve turned Shengal into their military base”. This is obviously a biased source that makes a horrendous false equivalence. I would remove this, but since it’s protected I can’t, someone please do Serok Ayris (talk) 13:46, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An equivalent argument would be like saying “In modern times, Palestinians face persecution from Hamas and Israel” because the Israeli government says Hamas has turned Gaza into a war zone. Obviously this is a ludicrous and false equivalence, but that’s what this article sounds like. The article is obviously so biased towards a Turkish perspective, please remove it and the claim that the PKK is somehow persecuting them on any level similar to that of ISIS Serok Ayris (talk) 13:59, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reverts about sourced content concerning the pre-Modern harmony between Yazidis and Sunnis.[edit]

@KurdeEzidi Greetings, since this seems to become a rather major discussion, it will be brought to the discussion page now. First, I want to acknowledge that I appreciate a lot of efforts you have put into that article, and also to learn more about Yazidis by that myself. However, I have to disagree with your last comment on the revert.

If I am not mistaken, the source in questions is "The Yazidi Genocide: An Introduction | Post Conflict Research Center (p-crc.org)", a internationally respected organization (Awards | Post Conflict Research Center (p-crc.org)). The webpage is further very transparent about their structure and members. If there is anything objectable about their work or the source, please let us know here. Further, the claim has been made in the previous edit summary, that 1. there is no support for the claim the citation was used for 2. that it contradicts the histrory section.

1. I would like to quote the passage I derived the claim from:

Despite various state-sanctioned violence against the Yazidis, historically, their day-to-day existence was one of tolerance and cooperation with their Sunni Muslim neighbors. While intermarriage was rare, friendships and working relationships were common between Yazidis and Sunnis, who often lived in close proximity to one another.

I do not see any ambiguity here. If I have overseen anything, please point it out.

2. The history section has a lot of uncited claims and even if we do not doubt their accuracy, it does not mean that the other statement is not true as well. The problem is simply, it is hard to retrace the claims and we have to rely on common knowledge and what is consistent with the sources offered. Furthermore, I think ambiguity between Sunni and non-Sunni identities is reconcilable, given that one of the most important persons in Yazidi faith is a disciple of a well-respected Sunni Shaikh who pretty much taught Sunni theology to the Yazidi-Kurds. This does not deny that persecution did not happen, rather that it was not continually happening over hundres of years. Violance on the other hand, happened to all sorts of minorities, especially when sanctioned by a state, in order to remain control.

I agree that there should be a better elaboration on the actual historic dynamics between Sunnis, state-authorities, and Yazidis in the history section, but a quick note on the ambiguity of actual Yazidi lifes throughout history in the lead-section is more helpful than doing harm. It avoids the errornous impression that persecution was an ongoing event for 1000 years, while it is rather a modern, and thanks to ISIS and PKK, continuing as a post-modern phenomena.

Please give me an explanation on the exact problem, since I do not see either an issue with the source nor that the claim is in odds with the history section. VenusFeuerFalle (talk) 17:25, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]